hey guys pep boys has champion double platinum or iridium plugs at a great price. anyone use these plugs? i have ngk platinum in my 01 infiniti i30 with 83k on them. and wanted to go with a cheaper plug the ngk's are 13 a piece vs the champions at 2.50 after mir . any advice? thanks guys
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Stay away from Champion unless you have a Chrysler vehicle or they come OEM. Since the plugs will be in for a long time, just stick with the NGK plats. You should be able to get NGK G-power for less than $4 each at advance or something. The G-Powers for my cav are only $2.59ea at Advance.
Does Pep Boys have a MIR going on? There is a Champion MIR if you buy the iridiums... if you can score twice, well, why not?
http://www.fmsmartchoice.com/championpromotion.html
I haven't tried them myself, but I've used their coppers with success.
http://www.fmsmartchoice.com/championpromotion.html
I haven't tried them myself, but I've used their coppers with success.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Stay away from Champion unless you have a Chrysler vehicle or they come OEM. Since the plugs will be in for a long time, just stick with the NGK plats. You should be able to get NGK G-power for less than $4 each at advance or something. The G-Powers for my cav are only $2.59ea at Advance.
I put G-powers in my Accord. Are these platinum plugs good for 50, 75 or 100K?
Stay away from Champion unless you have a Chrysler vehicle or they come OEM. Since the plugs will be in for a long time, just stick with the NGK plats. You should be able to get NGK G-power for less than $4 each at advance or something. The G-Powers for my cav are only $2.59ea at Advance.
I put G-powers in my Accord. Are these platinum plugs good for 50, 75 or 100K?
I'd probably put about 60, 75k on them before I'd replace them. But they are probably good for 100k.
I used to run Champions in everything I had. One time The parts store didn't have them for my Jeep so I got Autolites. IMO the Autolites run much smoother.
Originally Posted By: macdole99
hey guys pep boys has champion double platinum or iridium plugs at a great price. anyone use these plugs? i have ngk platinum in my 01 infiniti i30 with 83k on them. and wanted to go with a cheaper plug the ngk's are 13 a piece vs the champions at 2.50 after mir . any advice? thanks guys
I have used them before and never had a problem with them and it was not a Chrysler vehicle. I would recommend the iridiums if you can get them for a great price.
hey guys pep boys has champion double platinum or iridium plugs at a great price. anyone use these plugs? i have ngk platinum in my 01 infiniti i30 with 83k on them. and wanted to go with a cheaper plug the ngk's are 13 a piece vs the champions at 2.50 after mir . any advice? thanks guys
I have used them before and never had a problem with them and it was not a Chrysler vehicle. I would recommend the iridiums if you can get them for a great price.
NGK V-power(USA) are junk. My 1.8L Subaru came with Champs as std equipment. It's all boild down to proper heat range and a wide heat range. I would say NGK JAPAN or Denso Ir plugs in a COP ignition and Bosch copper core STD plugs or NDenso hot-U in a dual-ended resonant coil setup. I have a hard time finding champs in the colder #8 heat range in the 1mm gap. Just dont heel back (open) to get your gap - it causes spark quench - pinching down is ok.
I am biased against Champions - just had bad luck years ago. Maybe they've improved. But I see better choices that are known to be reliable and that includes NGK and Autolites. Autolite seems to be a good value all around and worked great in Jeeps I've had that came with Champions. I'm trying the dreaded Bosch Iridium Fusions right now in my truck and they're doing just fine.
I think one is best to stick with the OEM line of spark plugs, unless one finds information from a RELIABLE source that something else is better.
Champion used to be the spark plug for Chrysler......I put autolite in a 1981 Chrysler product....and ended up causing more rotor contact wear inside the distributor cap .
Autolite and Motorcraft seem to be the spark plug for FORDS (there may be exceptions).
NKG and DENSO are the stock plugs for TOYOTA/LEXUS.
That said......you need to stay with the proper plug (part number) for your application.
Auto part store listings seem to list all kinds of spark plugs that I would NOT use.
For my TOYOTA, I see "copper" plugs listed.......when the documentation (including a sticker under the hood) states to use ONLY Iridium plugs.
My owner's manual gives the part numbers for the NKG and the DENSO plug to be used.
With all the marketing, and multiple listings....I can see where there is much confusion over spark plugs.
Champion used to be the spark plug for Chrysler......I put autolite in a 1981 Chrysler product....and ended up causing more rotor contact wear inside the distributor cap .
Autolite and Motorcraft seem to be the spark plug for FORDS (there may be exceptions).
NKG and DENSO are the stock plugs for TOYOTA/LEXUS.
That said......you need to stay with the proper plug (part number) for your application.
Auto part store listings seem to list all kinds of spark plugs that I would NOT use.
For my TOYOTA, I see "copper" plugs listed.......when the documentation (including a sticker under the hood) states to use ONLY Iridium plugs.
My owner's manual gives the part numbers for the NKG and the DENSO plug to be used.
With all the marketing, and multiple listings....I can see where there is much confusion over spark plugs.
+1 I have mostly owned GM and always used AC when I could find them. Do I have good data supporting that? No. Have I ever seen anything solid suggesting something else would be better? No.
I recently put a set of Champion Platinums in my 98 GMC Sierra 5.7 V8. So far, so good. I remember being advised to stay away from Champions in the past, but that was with carbureted cars. I think engines are a bit more tolerant of different plugs these days, because of the more precise delivery of fuel in each cylinder with fuel injection. The plugs don't seem to foul as much with fuel injection compared to carburetion.
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
NGK V-power(USA) are junk. My 1.8L Subaru came with Champs as std equipment. It's all boild down to proper heat range and a wide heat range. I would say NGK JAPAN or Denso Ir plugs in a COP ignition and Bosch copper core STD plugs or NDenso hot-U in a dual-ended resonant coil setup. I have a hard time finding champs in the colder #8 heat range in the 1mm gap. Just dont heel back (open) to get your gap - it causes spark quench - pinching down is ok.
From experience, switching from Champions, Bosch Platinum +4, NGK single-tip to NGK V-POWER is like night and day. NGK V Power has the best bang for the buck. It has a huge popularity and good experience in the import and domestic sports car world.
NGK V-power(USA) are junk. My 1.8L Subaru came with Champs as std equipment. It's all boild down to proper heat range and a wide heat range. I would say NGK JAPAN or Denso Ir plugs in a COP ignition and Bosch copper core STD plugs or NDenso hot-U in a dual-ended resonant coil setup. I have a hard time finding champs in the colder #8 heat range in the 1mm gap. Just dont heel back (open) to get your gap - it causes spark quench - pinching down is ok.
From experience, switching from Champions, Bosch Platinum +4, NGK single-tip to NGK V-POWER is like night and day. NGK V Power has the best bang for the buck. It has a huge popularity and good experience in the import and domestic sports car world.
Just get the champion iridium and change the plug every 60k miles. The problem with champion iridium is difficult to cross-ref with other brand since the information is very limited.
The iridium is cheaper but perform very well and lasts very long (due to dual tip design)
The iridium is cheaper but perform very well and lasts very long (due to dual tip design)
You couldn't pay me to use Champions in any of our cars. I worked as a tech at a Mopar dealer for a few years and saw so many problems that were solved by switching to something other than Champion. I always switched them to Autolites.
Originally Posted By: Popinski
NGK V Power has the best bang for the buck. It has a huge popularity and good experience in the import and domestic sports car world.
I must disagree, V-Power=Poorly made plug. I have tuned and changed literally thousands of plus on hundreds of cars. The USA made NGK run a heat range hotter than the same H/R Japanese plug (ES)and the GND strap is easily eroded. Denso Hot U is prob the best made plug on the market - but have the correct heat range for the tune is the MOST importatnt aspect of picking a plug. Again on COP ONLY use Ir fine wire electrode plugs antything else will burn the teeny wittle Denso coilpacks. Dual-end coils (ford/subaru etc) or distributor ignition are more tolerant to traditional plugs and will take a larger gap and heavier electrode. Copper-core STD bosch, denso, champ and rust-away autolites run well here. Watch for plug height on pentroof DOHC centrally located plugs - a short plug may not be reached and contacted by the boot/stick contact spring. Also some plugs have VARNISH on the terminal that should be scotch brited off in certain apps.
NGK V Power has the best bang for the buck. It has a huge popularity and good experience in the import and domestic sports car world.
I must disagree, V-Power=Poorly made plug. I have tuned and changed literally thousands of plus on hundreds of cars. The USA made NGK run a heat range hotter than the same H/R Japanese plug (ES)and the GND strap is easily eroded. Denso Hot U is prob the best made plug on the market - but have the correct heat range for the tune is the MOST importatnt aspect of picking a plug. Again on COP ONLY use Ir fine wire electrode plugs antything else will burn the teeny wittle Denso coilpacks. Dual-end coils (ford/subaru etc) or distributor ignition are more tolerant to traditional plugs and will take a larger gap and heavier electrode. Copper-core STD bosch, denso, champ and rust-away autolites run well here. Watch for plug height on pentroof DOHC centrally located plugs - a short plug may not be reached and contacted by the boot/stick contact spring. Also some plugs have VARNISH on the terminal that should be scotch brited off in certain apps.
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How much work is involved in replacing spark plugs on your Infinity? I know Nissan 3.5 engines are pain to replace spark plugs. The intake manifold needs to come off. You probably want to do this job no more than every 100K. Then stick with the exact OEM NGK or Denso.
On the other hand, if you do not mind if your car hates Champions and you end having to replace them prematurely, go for the cheaper Champions and update this topic with your finding how they work for you.
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P.S. I just noticed you have I30; same engine as my Maxima 2000. Get the OEM NGK Iridiums from Amazon. I paid under $7 each for them. Also check NGK Laser Iridiums at Amazon. Those might be more expensive though.
On the other hand, if you do not mind if your car hates Champions and you end having to replace them prematurely, go for the cheaper Champions and update this topic with your finding how they work for you.
- Vikas
P.S. I just noticed you have I30; same engine as my Maxima 2000. Get the OEM NGK Iridiums from Amazon. I paid under $7 each for them. Also check NGK Laser Iridiums at Amazon. Those might be more expensive though.
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Champions were a standard great spark plug.
Then they fell into disfavor.
Now they are pretty good, because they are keeping up with modern trends.
If the heat range is OK for your car, they should be just fine. Does anyone think their platinum is inferior to others?
Then they fell into disfavor.
Now they are pretty good, because they are keeping up with modern trends.
If the heat range is OK for your car, they should be just fine. Does anyone think their platinum is inferior to others?
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