Challenging read- Special ops soldier won’t face charges after fatally shooting civilian on his property
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At age 16, I was delivering a pizza and apparently went to the wrong door. I was greeted with a revolver and a person who told me if I ever stopped foot on his property he would kill me.
I was internally angry at the very moment, but I knew, even at age 16 not to argue and slip away quietly into my 1971 Mercury Capri.
I would think a Russian soldier and a veteran of the Ukraine conflict would have volumes more common sense then I did at age 16.
Change.org reported he was shot twice in the back in the posted article. I would not repeat that he was shot twice in the back unless you had a credible source.
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These Chechens are tough guys. That area of the world pumps out tons of successful UFC fighters and martial artists. I've dealt with some of these guys in a previous life and they don't care about consequences. These guys are feared more for being suicidal than actually effective. Look at their supposed losses in the Ukrainian conflict, half the time they are stealing tractors and toilets.
A man can take a few bullets to the body, angles will change during a scuffle, when it's life or death and the guy has you in a headlock or something, you will shoot anywhere.
Was he told to become agitated and aggressive towards other people?
I wouldn't assume this Colonel was paranoid. He tried to deescalate with warnings and called the police. He was taking pictures of this guys kids after all. Imagine if he just let him continue and now you have to worry about this weirdo guy who illegally came through the southern border from some neolithic civilization thinking about your kids. Of course you would confront him...what would you do? Give him a high five?
How would someone that advanced at the home owner end up with two shots in the back?
I’m starting to think if this was a civilian that shot this worker, we would have a totally different outcome. This case is being hushed out IMO.
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It doesn't change my mind what profession the shooter has to me at least.
We don't know the angle of the shots to the back, were they perfectly perpendicular as if the worker was walking away? Were the shots taken during a scuffle on the ground and due to the shooters hand position they were the only shots he could get off in that position? Is the family just making stuff up here?
How about someone get the autopsy report and lets see how close the muzzle blast residue is and the trajectory of the bullet wounds.
Go to reddit and search for "INSANE: Guy attacks officer with a stick... ends up taking about a dozen center mass hits before going down".
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It appears the two shots in the back statement is not verified, validated, or accredited by any bona fide sources.
The soldier is a socom commander, not just some officer, the "utility worker" was working well after normal hours, wasn't in uniform, wasn't in, near or on a utility company vehicle, was from the kidnap capital of the world or at least Europe and appeared to be taking pictures of the commanders wife and kids. Also had another "utility worker" from the same country in a near by running unmarked car.
Good thing he wasted the guy instead of waiting and seeing what happens.
I dont know how military times ever ran an article thay sounds like "unstable army guy murders innocent utility worker who was just trying to do his job". MT must have gone woke.
Shooting someone in the back assumes they were in retreat and so is difficult for the shooter to defend. In this case that we are discussing the aggression exhibited by the so called utility worker prompted the home owner to protect his family.
No proof at all of kiddie pics, merely an assumption. I'd bet when they looked at his phone there wasn't anything but power lines. If you have evidence otherwise, please share your source. How would anybody know how legal (or not) somebody is by looking at them.
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What Brigade does this Colonel command at SOCOM? SOCOM Commander is a four star general officer, a designated combatant commander, typically but not always an air force officer, and based at McDill AFB in Tampa.
I would appreciate a link that validated the special ops officer is a Colonel, as I seem to have missed that. Thank you.
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Thanks for posting the link.
This article mentions it.
Seems like a trigger happy individual.
https://www.voanews.com/amp/no-charges-against-us-serviceman-in-shooting-of-chechen-man/7743454.html
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This is where the the medical examiners office will pay very close attention and go into detail during the autopsy and investigation. If there was any shred of evidence that this guy just plainly shot the guy in the back and made up a lie it would be uncovered.
This isn't the 50's where you tell the police "ask the dead guy what happened" and the problem goes away. The tech and knowledge modern county medical examiners have is pretty amazing. Look at the old Forensics Files episodes from the late 90s - 00s, they performed miracles in those labs and can do even more now. The size of the gunshot residue, if any, on the assailant would be an easy tell how close the shot was.
"The initial 911 call to the Sheriff's Office was made by the homeowner's wife at 8:12 PM. During the call, she stated that a suspicious person was observed on her property taking photographs of the house and children, and that her husband had approached the individual to speak with them. She noted that there was an apparent language barrier, and that the person was acting aggressively. The second call, which was more exigent, was made at 8:25 PM. At one point during the calls, the caller could be heard pleading for expedited law enforcement response at the request of her husband, who could be heard yelling to her in the background. She secured a rifle during one of the calls, reflecting the perceived level of threat. The shooting allegedly took place shortly after the second call, just prior to deputies arriving on scene."
"Efforts to access Daraev’s cellular phone continue in effort to fully understand his activities and the nature of any photographs taken. Some images Daraev uploaded to a shared directory have been obtained, and analysis is ongoing. Given the unique circumstances of the incident, the sheriff’s office has voluntarily kept all case materials accessible to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Army Criminal Investigation Division throughout the investigation."
https://www.facebook.com/MCSheriffOffice/ see 8/12 post
At the 2:10 mark of the second audio recording, the wife states pictures are being taken of the children. I doubt she made this up in the heat of the moment as a future defense.
https://www.thepilot.com/news/audio...cle_7d22432c-1e96-11ef-a4af-b720a4ec2d30.html
“He's from Chechnya. He came up on our poverty line. My kids are in the backyard," the caller said. "He's taking pictures of our property. My husband is, he's a military specialist. He's trained and he knows what he's doing, but I really need some police presence here."
"He's taking pictures of your property?" the dispatcher asked.
"Of our children, of our property," the caller said.
Well maybe if they are screaming "derka! derka! derka!" at you while being aggressive and trespassing on your property?
But.... was he?
I wasn't there.
These are small counties in the South. How many people did Alex Murdaugh kill before he was even brought up on charges. In fact, the only way he was finally even looked into is after too many they finally brought in the medical examiner from Charleston County and they refused to agree with the original findings.
Fun fact - this shooting took place in Moore County. You may recall a couple years ago someone was running around shooting up power substations and whole communities were without power for weeks. Same County.
Not saying he did or didn't, but things work differently in these places.
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