ekpolk, to what question do you refer? Do you mean his question about CCS data that he should have looked at before making a blanket statment?
That's what I was refering to.
That's what I did.
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That's what I was refering to.
Respectfully, he asked, "pardon my ignorance, but what do these numbers [CCS figures] actually mean?" OK, he should have his own facts in line before characterizing a product, but to his credit, he admitted that he didn't know, and asked for help. I can't agree that you've answered his question, however. If you're frustrated with his approach, that's fine. In fact, you've said as much three times since he posted the question, but you have not explained the significance of CCS figures, the subject of his question. I posted a general answer, but I'll be the first to admit that I'm no expert, as I've paid little attention to CCS values. We don't give such things much thought down here in Florida. If you can shed more light on the real-world value of CCSs, that would be great. Now, let's get back to the questions at hand -- hey, it's a lot more fun to bash Castrol than it is to bash fellow members!
(BTW, I'm a German Castrol user, and have about 150 qts of the stuff on hand).
Pot meet tea kettle....
I guess Castrol Syntec isn't really a group III either? After all, they never said it, right?
Actually, I had a relative idea what CCS meant, I was just wondering why Castrol's numbers were not included in a thread entitled "Castrol Syntec."
I'll be sure never to use irony or sarcasm again, since it clearly sails over your head...
SpeedTC,
SpeedTC, get over YOURSELF. If you have a rattle trap worn out 4-banger, that's too bad. If a mushier lube works for you, fine, use it. Don't be so angry.
We're all aware M-1 isn't slippier than the others, but it DOES have its benefits. The main benefit for me is, it doesn't flash the volatile elements as readily as group three syns, and it IS cheaper than comparable syns, such as Amsoil, Redline, etc, etc. When your Syntec, Pennzoil Platinum, and others flash at as high a temp as M-1, I'll start buying it, but so far, no one's showing me that. If you choose to run the cheapest dino you can find, great! It's just a rattle-trap 4 banger you're driving after all. Some pretty fast company specs M-1 out of the factory. That means something, and they aren't rattletrap-4 bangers such as yours..
And you call the M-1 fans losers. Look to the mirror, pal. It's just a discussion, SpeedTC.
My 2 cents.
Well, for those who continue to poop on the Mobil 1, I still wanna know, who's making an oil with a higher flashpoint than Mobil 1?
SpeedTC, get over YOURSELF. If you have a rattle trap worn out 4-banger, that's too bad. If a mushier lube works for you, fine, use it. Don't be so angry.
We're all aware M-1 isn't slippier than the others, but it DOES have its benefits. The main benefit for me is, it doesn't flash the volatile elements as readily as group three syns, and it IS cheaper than comparable syns, such as Amsoil, Redline, etc, etc. When your Syntec, Pennzoil Platinum, and others flash at as high a temp as M-1, I'll start buying it, but so far, no one's showing me that. If you choose to run the cheapest dino you can find, great! It's just a rattle-trap 4 banger you're driving after all. Some pretty fast company specs M-1 out of the factory. That means something, and they aren't rattletrap-4 bangers such as yours..
And you call the M-1 fans losers. Look to the mirror, pal. It's just a discussion, SpeedTC.
My 2 cents.
"If you choose to run the cheapest dino you can find, great! It's just a rattle-trap 4 banger you're driving after all. Some pretty fast company specs M-1 out of the factory. That means something, and they aren't rattletrap-4 bangers such as yours.."
Roger that.
I would have more respect for the blind faith ShamTec customers if they switched to Chevron Supreme. Then they really would have the last laugh compared to us who spend 35$+ each oil change with top dollar RP, AMSOIL, German Castrol, RL, Fuchs etc.
Roger that.
I would have more respect for the blind faith ShamTec customers if they switched to Chevron Supreme. Then they really would have the last laugh compared to us who spend 35$+ each oil change with top dollar RP, AMSOIL, German Castrol, RL, Fuchs etc.
Well Nick, if you don't know what CCS data means, what then are you basing your statement on?
Maybe because they are not listed in the Technical Data here and maybe because Syntec is not G-III as you surmized. You did refer to G-III oils "like" Syntec in comparison to PAO, why would the comparison of data to a KNOWN G-III oil like Havoline be inappropriate? Your statement in regards to G-III vs PAO has no merit and no basis...just the usual mindless retoric.
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