Castrol Magnatec observation

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So over the past 9 years I have owned 2 GM trucks with a 5.3L engine. First one was a 2004 Chevy that was driven routinely, if not daily as the family vehicle for a few years and was then retired to just weekend truck duties. I ran valvoline conventional, durablend, and synpower in it and later used QSUD. Over many OCIs ranging 3-4K at that time I knew what to expect regarding the small amount of iron paste stuck to the magnetic oil drain plug. The truck had only about 85-87k on it when totaled by a hailstorm. It was replaced by a 2003 Sierra that is used also for typical weekend truck duty hauling and light towing. Only drive 3-4K/year so I change the oil and filter annually. Previous owner used vwb. When I changed oil first time in it, I saw the typical amount of residue on the magnet. Next OCI of QS conv I saw pretty much the same at which time I installed Magnetec 5w30 and a Fram Ultra. This was slightly over one year ago. Changed it today and was really impressed with just how little iron on the magnet. I touched the drain plug to the frame and it was strong enough to hold itself up. I know this is only one data point for Magnatec but it really seems to be good stuff. It may have been the oil, the Fram Ultra or maybe the mild winter we had resulting in the low observed iron. Just saying all this because if you are on the fence about using it then give it a try! I think it's really more than just marketing at this point.

Today I installed Maxlife and another Fram Ultra. Was hesitant to use the currently full syn Magnetec in a 14 year old engine with almost 140k on it. Wish they had stayed with a blend.
 
the full synthetic Magnatec will be fine on both
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I'm just guessing here, but I think the synthetic Magnatec is a Group 3 oil, but the "intelligent" molecule is really a Polar molecule that clings to the metal surface of the engine components. Given how Group 2, 3 and 4 are not very polar, while nobody uses Group 1 much any more due to lack of oxidation stability. To me this means the organic polar molecule would probably be a Group 5 product. Sure probably only a small amount, but it's still there.

So when you think of it this way, Magnatec as a very affordable Group 3 and Group 5 synthetic oil, maybe it's well noted excellent performance makes sense.
 
Are you sure it wasn't the FREM Ultra that trapped more deposits & leaving less on the drain plug magnet?
 
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Originally Posted By: Char Baby
Are you sure it wasn't the FREM Ultra that trapped more deposits & leaving less on the drain plug magnet?


I put another Ultra on the truck. Next spring I will see how much iron is stuck to the plug using VML but the same filter. However I have typically used either a Fram Ultra or tough guard on the truck I had before as I'm a big fan of the grippy stuff allowing better tightening of the filter with oily hands. Also from UOAs we have seen Magnatec produce low iron on several engine/filter combos. I decided to use my magnetic drain plug as an estimate of iron and skip the uoa this time.
 
If your using the Fram Ultra -- why would you be changing out that filter yearly when your only averaging 4000 miles a year? Would not the Tough Guard be more financially prudent?
 
The Magnatec was probably the north pole offering and the magnetic drain plug was north pole as well. With both magnetic forces the same, the attraction is equalized and the iron fluff stays in the oil, keeping the drain plug clean. Buy the south pole Magnatec next time.
There simply is no other logical explanation.
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Seriously, don't doubt the OP observation, but only UOA data from both oils would tell the tale.
 
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Originally Posted By: thorromig
If your using the Fram Ultra -- why would you be changing out that filter yearly when your only averaging 4000 miles a year? Would not the Tough Guard be more financially prudent?


A). Because I want to.
B). The best you can get is always the cheapest in the long run.

Too many financial experts on this board.
 
Originally Posted By: beanoil
The Magnatec was probably the north pole offering and the magnetic drain plug was north pole as well. With both magnetic forces the same, the attraction is equalized and the iron fluff stays in the oil, keeping the drain plug clean. Buy the south pole Magnatec next time.
There simply is no other logical explanation.
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I agree
 
Way to be a smart A__!!! The best you can get is always the cheapest in the long run?? So im gonna buy a top of the line pirelli tires and run them one season because " I WANT TOO ??? " Yeah, you sound like a real financial expert!!!! LOL

More like your one of those that just likes to hear yourself talk!!! GET LOST
 
What's the matter? Can't take it when someone stands up to your pushing off unwanted and unneeded advice? You get lost.
 
Have you noticed any changes in how the engine runs (engine noise, change in start up idle vibration until the oil warms up, etc. while using Magnetec? I know that when I put Magnetec in my girlfriends Honda Fit, the engine ran quieter than it ever did on any other oil.
 
Originally Posted By: slybunda
Is this the magnatec your using?


All the Magnatec's appear to optimised for their local market.
That picture appears to be a European oil that is full synthetic 5W30 and is A5/B5.

In Australia we get a full synthetic 5W30 that is SN and A3/B4 (so thicker). Plus a few semi-synthetic Magnatec's like 10W40 (SN, A3/B4), 10W30 (SN, A3/B4) and 5W30 (SN, GF-5).

In North America they get a full synthetic 5W30 this is SN, GF-5 and Dexos 1. Plus a 0W20 and 5W20 full synthetic and a 10W30 semi-synthetic, all SN and GF-5 (plus Dexos for the 0W20).
 
Magnatec is FS in the US now. At least the 0w- and 5w-20 is. I just put it in my truck.
 
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The 5w30 was a blend but is now labeled as full synthetic just like the 20 weights.
 
Yep! I was already a fan of Magnatec but just grabbed my first full syn jug of 5w30 the other day. A great deal just got even better!

There was still blend sitting there too.
 
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