I see Shannow reguarly refer to this stuff as A3/B4 so did some digging. I take it the 5w-30 at Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-Edge-5W30-Motor-Oil-5-qt/34039135 is not the same as http://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/CBF55E354ED8B47E80257D540060FC09/$File/BPXE-9P9HK3.pdf available in other parts of the world?
Castrol EDGE 5W-30
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I see Shannow reguarly refer to this stuff as A3/B4 so did some digging. I take it the 5w-30 at Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-Edge-5W30-Motor-Oil-5-qt/34039135 is not the same as http://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/CBF55E354ED8B47E80257D540060FC09/$File/BPXE-9P9HK3.pdf available in other parts of the world?
No Castrol Edge A3/B4 on the Walmart website. Also, haven't seen any in the stores.
I see Shannow reguarly refer to this stuff as A3/B4 so did some digging. I take it the 5w-30 at Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-Edge-5W30-Motor-Oil-5-qt/34039135 is not the same as http://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/CBF55E354ED8B47E80257D540060FC09/$File/BPXE-9P9HK3.pdf available in other parts of the world?
No Castrol Edge A3/B4 on the Walmart website. Also, haven't seen any in the stores.
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The stuff you linked to above is not the same as the Australian stuff.
The thinner US-spec stuff is SN, GF-5, Dexos1. The HTHS would be about 3.0 to 3.1 I guess. It would have the standard GF-5 levels for zinc and TBN.
The thicker Oz stuff is Euro-spec and is SL (high Zinc, but SN quality otherwise), ACEA A3/B4, MB 229.5 and BMW LL-01. It's a long life & high TBN oil, in a gold bottle with a 3.5 to 3.6 HTHS. According to Shannow this is a similar HTHS to a 30 monograde, so the final product would have very little VII in it. The MB 229.5 standard means the Noack volatility is 10% or less, while the TBN is 10 or more.
I'm not too sure how well a API SL oil will sell in the USA, even though it's a very good quality oil. I like it as it offers High: Zinc, HTHS and TBN; with Low: Shear and Volatility. I'm pretty sure it's a Group 3 synthetic, which some don't consider a real synthetic, but it will do me fine. Over here we call it Edge 5W30 A3//B4.
I know Garak has just recently found it in Canada.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3900513/
The thinner US-spec stuff is SN, GF-5, Dexos1. The HTHS would be about 3.0 to 3.1 I guess. It would have the standard GF-5 levels for zinc and TBN.
The thicker Oz stuff is Euro-spec and is SL (high Zinc, but SN quality otherwise), ACEA A3/B4, MB 229.5 and BMW LL-01. It's a long life & high TBN oil, in a gold bottle with a 3.5 to 3.6 HTHS. According to Shannow this is a similar HTHS to a 30 monograde, so the final product would have very little VII in it. The MB 229.5 standard means the Noack volatility is 10% or less, while the TBN is 10 or more.
I'm not too sure how well a API SL oil will sell in the USA, even though it's a very good quality oil. I like it as it offers High: Zinc, HTHS and TBN; with Low: Shear and Volatility. I'm pretty sure it's a Group 3 synthetic, which some don't consider a real synthetic, but it will do me fine. Over here we call it Edge 5W30 A3//B4.
I know Garak has just recently found it in Canada.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3900513/
Originally Posted By: jdavis
I see Shannow reguarly refer to this stuff as A3/B4 so did some digging. I take it the 5w-30 at Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-Edge-5W30-Motor-Oil-5-qt/34039135 is not the same as http://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/CBF55E354ED8B47E80257D540060FC09/$File/BPXE-9P9HK3.pdf available in other parts of the world?
We've got two 5W30 Edges here.
As SR5 states, one's Euro spec, and the other's ILSAC...
Looking at the US website
http://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-stat...-motor-oil.html
They DO list the A3/B4, and a C3 in the States...not sure where you would find them.
I see Shannow reguarly refer to this stuff as A3/B4 so did some digging. I take it the 5w-30 at Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Castrol-Edge-5W30-Motor-Oil-5-qt/34039135 is not the same as http://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/CBF55E354ED8B47E80257D540060FC09/$File/BPXE-9P9HK3.pdf available in other parts of the world?
We've got two 5W30 Edges here.
As SR5 states, one's Euro spec, and the other's ILSAC...
Looking at the US website
http://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-stat...-motor-oil.html
They DO list the A3/B4, and a C3 in the States...not sure where you would find them.
I'll have to check out Autozone, they'd likely have the A3/B4 if anyone would..
You might have to go to a dealership to get them...
Here is is on Amazon, Castrol 03037, 5Qt of Edge 5W-30 A3/B4 (gold bottle) for $38.78, with regular price $49.99
Quote:
Specially designed European Formulation
Meets BMW, MB and VW specs
Formulated for highly tuned four cylinder and latest technology engines that operate at higher temperatures, such as European Vehicles
Approved and Licensed Specifications
API SL , ACEA A3/B4, BMW LL-01, MB-Approval 229.5 , VW 502 00 , VW 505 00 , BMW G.O. Replacement
Amazon Edge 5W30 A3/B4
Quote:
Specially designed European Formulation
Meets BMW, MB and VW specs
Formulated for highly tuned four cylinder and latest technology engines that operate at higher temperatures, such as European Vehicles
Approved and Licensed Specifications
API SL , ACEA A3/B4, BMW LL-01, MB-Approval 229.5 , VW 502 00 , VW 505 00 , BMW G.O. Replacement
Amazon Edge 5W30 A3/B4
Just for reference. Here in my area, I have looked for a3/b4 before. I ended up finding it at Advance Auto parts. However, it seemed the employees didn't notice the difference much as they were mixed in with regular castrol Edge 5w30. I told them there was a difference clear on the label and they seem to have started separating it out. Our autozone hardly carries anything other than 5w30/10w30/10w40/20w50. No 5w40 or a3/b4 oil there at the current time.
Castrol were having those problems here too I believe.
So they separated them in the shop owner's minds by having shelf tags that said "suitable for DPF", or "Not suitable for DPF".
Easier than educating about HTHS, and in a period where there were warnings about DPF poising, so topical.
Got them some poor response (like my Dad) with "why did they step backwards on their oil...they didn't they just had two streams, one ILSAC, one A3/B4.
So they separated them in the shop owner's minds by having shelf tags that said "suitable for DPF", or "Not suitable for DPF".
Easier than educating about HTHS, and in a period where there were warnings about DPF poising, so topical.
Got them some poor response (like my Dad) with "why did they step backwards on their oil...they didn't they just had two streams, one ILSAC, one A3/B4.
In Canada, we have three Edge 5w-30 products. There is the SN/GF-5 dexos1 version, the A3/B4 version, and the dexos2 version.
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Has anyone noticed they don't list 0W40 any more?
http://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-stat...-motor-oil.html
http://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-stat...-motor-oil.html
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Has anyone noticed they don't list 0W40 any more?
http://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-stat...-motor-oil.html
They're still listing it here http://www.castrol.com/en_au/australia/car-engine-oil/engine-oil-viscosity/0w-40.html
Has anyone noticed they don't list 0W40 any more?
http://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-stat...-motor-oil.html
They're still listing it here http://www.castrol.com/en_au/australia/car-engine-oil/engine-oil-viscosity/0w-40.html
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Has anyone noticed they don't list 0W40 any more?
http://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-stat...-motor-oil.html
They're still listing it here http://www.castrol.com/en_au/australia/car-engine-oil/engine-oil-viscosity/0w-40.html
USA, Australia, Europe, etc are all a bit different in what they stock, sell and list.
Aquariuscsm, would love a bit of Castrol Magnatec 10W-40 (A3/B4, SN) but he can't get it in America. Here, it's one sale once a month, with so much on display I'm tripping over it when I walk in the store.
aquariuscsm, if ever I win lotto, I'll try and post you over a few jugs.
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Has anyone noticed they don't list 0W40 any more?
http://www.castrol.com/en_us/united-stat...-motor-oil.html
They're still listing it here http://www.castrol.com/en_au/australia/car-engine-oil/engine-oil-viscosity/0w-40.html
USA, Australia, Europe, etc are all a bit different in what they stock, sell and list.
Aquariuscsm, would love a bit of Castrol Magnatec 10W-40 (A3/B4, SN) but he can't get it in America. Here, it's one sale once a month, with so much on display I'm tripping over it when I walk in the store.
aquariuscsm, if ever I win lotto, I'll try and post you over a few jugs.
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aquariuscsm, if ever I win lotto, I'll try and post you over a few jugs.
Right on my brother!!
aquariuscsm, if ever I win lotto, I'll try and post you over a few jugs.
Right on my brother!!
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