so, if u want to add anything to ur gas,,what are u all using to add additives,,there is not an opening anymore as in older cars ..Maybe a metal funnel>>>>>>>>>>>>>
cars with no gas caps
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The Ford's come with a funnel for if you run out of gas.
There ya go!
Ford is smart!
Ford is smart!
Does not most everything had flaps inside the fill tube you have to push open anyhow? I guess I gotta look at that ford capless gas cap at a ford dealer(?!!)
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Every car we have owned going back at least to 1985, has a spring loaded flap inside the neck that you have to press down. Some aren't really tight, and even have holes on the sides, while my 91 BMW is so tight that gasoline sitting above the flap will sit indefinitely until the flap is mechanically pressed down.
The cars where adds will seep past I just let them flow and they dribble down. The ones that are super tight I use a short metal rod to press the flap down.
I rent cars a lot and nocrental I've ever seen has this flap.
If that ford has no cap, I'd really not like that. It is so marginally more simple that it is ridiculous, and chances of water or dirt getting in are much higher.
The cars where adds will seep past I just let them flow and they dribble down. The ones that are super tight I use a short metal rod to press the flap down.
I rent cars a lot and nocrental I've ever seen has this flap.
If that ford has no cap, I'd really not like that. It is so marginally more simple that it is ridiculous, and chances of water or dirt getting in are much higher.
JHZR2
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That's why states are moving to an obdii based inspection. Tank pressurization/seal is verified by that, and the cel tells it all.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
That's why states are moving to an obdii based inspection. Tank pressurization/seal is verified by that, and the cel tells it all.
Yes! Unless you could reprogram your PCM to do otherwise. And possibly removing emission devices. I don't know who has done that though.....
That's why states are moving to an obdii based inspection. Tank pressurization/seal is verified by that, and the cel tells it all.
Yes! Unless you could reprogram your PCM to do otherwise. And possibly removing emission devices. I don't know who has done that though.....
My '95 BMW is like that.
Fuel above the flap just sits there unless you depress the flap.
On most cars, you can slowly pour an add in, and it will trickle in pretty quickly even with the flap closed.
On the BMW, I took a bottle of injector cleaner to the gas station, and ended up having to dribble a bit in, and then open the flap with the pump nozzle to get it into the tank.
Rinse and repeat, until I finally got all of the stuff in.
Fuel above the flap just sits there unless you depress the flap.
On most cars, you can slowly pour an add in, and it will trickle in pretty quickly even with the flap closed.
On the BMW, I took a bottle of injector cleaner to the gas station, and ended up having to dribble a bit in, and then open the flap with the pump nozzle to get it into the tank.
Rinse and repeat, until I finally got all of the stuff in.
Stupid idea, that will no doubt pass. I really dont know how much lazier they can expect people to get.
This is just one of the things that I DO NOT understand. What is the POINT of this? Are people THAT LAZY that they can't unscrew a gas cap? Am I missing something huge here or what? I just don't understand what this is for. *Shakes head* Let alone that someone would pay extra for it!
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This is just one of the things that I DO NOT understand. What is the POINT of this? Are people THAT LAZY that they can't unscrew a gas cap? Am I missing something huge here or what? I just don't understand what this is for. *Shakes head* Let alone that someone would pay extra for it!
Dont get me wrong, i love Ford, notice my job in my sig, but this feature is really solving a problem that never existed. We have changed more filler necks on vehicles with this for EVAP leaks than i can keep track of. There is no gas cap to turn a little tighter so you have to replace the entire assembly.
This is just one of the things that I DO NOT understand. What is the POINT of this? Are people THAT LAZY that they can't unscrew a gas cap? Am I missing something huge here or what? I just don't understand what this is for. *Shakes head* Let alone that someone would pay extra for it!
Dont get me wrong, i love Ford, notice my job in my sig, but this feature is really solving a problem that never existed. We have changed more filler necks on vehicles with this for EVAP leaks than i can keep track of. There is no gas cap to turn a little tighter so you have to replace the entire assembly.
The thread title made me think we had finally moved to "filled for life" gas tanks.
Its market is all the morons who've driven off without their gas cap. Or, as I've witnessed all too often of late, the dimwit driving down the road with the gas cap gently swaying on the end of its tether.
They say idiots are "a dime a dozen". I'm lookin' for the guy supplying the dimes...
They say idiots are "a dime a dozen". I'm lookin' for the guy supplying the dimes...
I'm sure it is to stop people from wasting the dealer's time due to a loose gas cap setting off a CEL.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
That's why states are moving to an obdii based inspection. Tank pressurization/seal is verified by that, and the cel tells it all.
We have the (redundant) OBDII scan too... but are "locked" in the plan we submitted to EPA back in the mid-1990s to fix our X-number of bad-air-days in one county. Any changes to the plan seem to need a whole new scientific impact study that's too expensive for the state to pay for.
Now that we have that nascar filler neck, why not put threads on it for a redundant gas cap? Ford has not had the greatest success with gas tanks and accidents: try explaining to a jury why they left that part off.
That's why states are moving to an obdii based inspection. Tank pressurization/seal is verified by that, and the cel tells it all.
We have the (redundant) OBDII scan too... but are "locked" in the plan we submitted to EPA back in the mid-1990s to fix our X-number of bad-air-days in one county. Any changes to the plan seem to need a whole new scientific impact study that's too expensive for the state to pay for.
Now that we have that nascar filler neck, why not put threads on it for a redundant gas cap? Ford has not had the greatest success with gas tanks and accidents: try explaining to a jury why they left that part off.
When I was at the Ford dealership checking out the Fiesta the salesman pitched the no gas cap as a cool selling point. I was thinking the same thing as most of you guys.
I'm sure the flap, seal, and spring are more durable than the regular little flap in most fuel necks.
That said, I want a cap on top of my little flap, for sure.
What about water , snow. and ice? [Not just the inevitable dust.]
That said, I want a cap on top of my little flap, for sure.
What about water , snow. and ice? [Not just the inevitable dust.]
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