Brutal article about Hailie Deegan

Having been involved in professional racing for 22 years or so ( I took a couple years off to attend to family matters), it is always amusing to overhear some of the comments from spectators. Some have it all figured out, as far as who can and can't drive, what a teams issues are and how to fix them, etc, etc.

I always wonder why if they are so capable and knowledgeable, why they aren't fielding a team, or the Crew Chief on a team at the very least...
Every sport is like that, oddly it gets worse the younger the actual participants are! None of them volunteer - zero pay - to coach (or ref/ump) a group of squirrelly 8 year olds, but dang they sure can yell at the kids, the coach, the ref, the sky...........
 
Deegan is going to the NXT series, maybe she'll end up with an Indy car win, a couple top fives in the 500 and make her way back to NASCAR to win the Daytona 500 pole. Not about male or female, it's about accomplishment and Danica has proven herself more than a high percentage of any drivers that have never accomplished what she did.
 
Deegan is going to the NXT series, maybe she'll end up with an Indy car win, a couple top fives in the 500 and make her way back to NASCAR to win the Daytona 500 pole. Not about male or female, it's about accomplishment and Danica has proven herself more than a high percentage of any drivers that have never accomplished what she did.
Billt460, what's the emoji on your reaction representing? You agree that Deegan will not achieve accomplishment due to lack of talent (my comment was tongue in cheek and that Deegan will never achieve a fraction of what Danica did) or that Danica didn't really amount to much either despite her accomplishments?
 
200th... her nascar accomplishments are down in the noise. She comes across as dumb as box of rocks when commentating, especially on espn F1.

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Billt460, what's the emoji on your reaction representing? You agree that Deegan will not achieve accomplishment due to lack of talent (my comment was tongue in cheek and that Deegan will never achieve a fraction of what Danica did) or that Danica didn't really amount to much either despite her accomplishments?
Danica achieved nothing by way of her, "driving talent". And I've given a wagonload of statistics and videos to back it up throughout this thread. If she was a capable racer, she would still be in it.

And not hawking auto repair insurance, and walking around with a mic in her hand. Both Deegan and Decker were / are both a joke. Even compared to Danica.

Financially Danica was very marketable... And still is. Her income, along with her net worth proves that. Deegan isn't worth the powder it would take to blow her up from a racing, and / or a marketability standpoint.

She'll fail in Indy Lights the exact same way she failed in the Xfinity series..... Because she doesn't have the talent for either. Except it won't take as long because everyone sees and knows she's skating on thin ice as it already is.

When, (not if), she starts trashing equipment, she'll be gone for good. She lacks the talent to be a winning RACER. Everybody "drives".

Because of the finances involved, it is very difficult today for these young drivers who possess real racing talent, to get a shot with a good team, and advance their careers in the sport.

What aggravates me is this seat could have been offered to a young driver that really has the talent to advance in the sport. And not just drive around the track doing laps.

Instead it's going to be wasted with what amounts to no more than a DEI female hire. Everything else is sugar coated, politically correct nonsense.
 
Danica achieved nothing by way of her, "driving talent". And I've given a wagonload of statistics and videos to back it up throughout this thread. If she was a capable racer, she would still be in it.

And not hawking auto repair insurance, and walking around with a mic in her hand. Both Deegan and Decker were / are both a joke. Even compared to Danica.

Financially Danica was very marketable... And still is. Her income, along with her net worth proves that. Deegan isn't worth the powder it would take to blow her up from a racing, and / or a marketability standpoint.

She'll fail in Indy Lights the exact same way she failed in the Xfinity series..... Because she doesn't have the talent for either. Except it won't take as long because everyone sees and knows she's skating on thin ice as it already is.

When, (not if), she starts trashing equipment, she'll be gone for good. She lacks the talent to be a winning RACER. Everybody "drives".

Because of the finances involved, it is very difficult today for these young drivers who possess real racing talent, to get a shot with a good team, and advance their careers in the sport.

What aggravates me is this seat could have been offered to a young driver that really has the talent to advance in the sport. And not just drive around the track doing laps.

Instead it's going to be wasted with what amounts to no more than a DEI female hire. Everything else is sugar coated, politically correct nonsense.
I helped a local guy field Formula Fords, SRF, spec 7, and FSCCA cars that were powered by the Mazda 2.3 with a 5-speed sequential dog box transmission. I did that for several summers, I saved up for two summers working crazy overtime to afford all of the driving equipment and my RX-7. It's not an inexpensive hobby by any means. Even the spec miata series has come to the point that to be competitive you need a truck and trailer plus several spares, and it's a spec series designed to cap costs. It's really tough to pay for seat time to practice.
 
It's because he only raced champ cars twice in merica, winning one Roosevelt cup. Their metric counts starts, poles, laps led and end of race place. Same with Hill and his indy 500 3 races. This is only for merican indy car style racing. You guys already know this.
 
Huertas got his one win by cheating. Hearn is a bit curious why he's lower, maybe because of different era having fewer races? Not sure.
 
It's because he only raced champ cars twice in merica, winning one Roosevelt cup. Their metric counts starts, poles, laps led and end of race place. Same with Hill and his indy 500 3 races. This is only for merican indy car style racing. You guys already know this.
Then you need to throw out whichever drivers don’t meet your criteria and see where Danica lands. Having Bernd Rosemeyer ahead of her already tells you how flawed this list is because he didn’t race much in the USA either. Throwing out this list to show Danica is a bad driver is not a valid argument.
 
My post, not my list. Look at the top of the screen grab. I selected it just to show others that it wasn't just me who thought Danica stunk. Indycar (champ, irl, USAC, aaa, CART ) ET AL is American open wheel. Thus the list only ranks to that criteria. I think you already know this. Rosemeyer won the only race he entered.
 
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My post, not my list. Look at the top of the screen grab. I selected it just to show others that it wasn't just me who thought Danica stunk. Indycar (champ, irl, USAC, aaa, CART ) ET AL is American open wheel. Thus the list only ranks to that criteria. I think you already know this. Rosemeyer won the only race he entered.
I do not know or care where this list is from. Using it to try and prove Danica is bad driver is not possible.
 
Another thing to remember if you're into comparisons, is both Danica and A.J. Almandinger came out of the Toyota Atlantic series at the exact same time.

Both transitioned from Indy cars to Nascar near the same time as well. Almandinger is a fair to average driver. Yet he has outperformed, and outlasted Danica at most every juncture.

And with much better results. And Almandinger is still out there making a racing career for himself. And without trashing anywhere near the amount of equipment she has.
 
All of us are needed to keep discussions lively. This isn't about the Dinger. It's very specifically comparing two female drivers.

But since we're at it, lol, Jimmy Johnson seven-time NASCAR champ couldn't come near to match what Danica did in Indy car. Is anybody going to question the equipment he was in? Subpar? That's the reason he finished in the top 10 twice in his career at Texas (6) and Iowa(5)? He wasn't Indy car driver anymore than Danica was a NASCAR driver. But I would beg to differ that when comparing crossover statistics, she didn't embarrass herself.
 
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Ok, last response to the hole apologists. Danica sucked. And look at post #37 all those who don't read whole threads (uncle dave) .
Didn't she complain about how terrible her nascar was yet the following year a 20 something took her exact same car out and placed in the top 10 in a few races?
 
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