Brutal article about Hailie Deegan

You think?

The racing series where every single spare inch of real estate on the vehicle is plastered with sponsor logos and the author feels the need to point out that "sponsorship talks"?

What an incredibly naïve article.



All that telemetry laying bare a driver's ability and still, drivers like Nikita Mazepin, Nicholas Latifi, and Mick Schumacher get multi-year contracts, even after underperformance.

Pay drivers have always been a thing (Mazepin/Latifi). So are big names that bring along sponsors (Schumacher).

Of course, your dad could just buy the team and give you a drive (Lance Stroll).

Or maybe it's just because a team wants to give a ride to an America driver during a period of rapid expansion in the American market and even got the FIA to stretch the rules to make it happen (Logan Sargeant).

Don't pretend F1 is some paragon of performance, where better drivers always get the seat.
Yeah F1 also needs to be more financially affordable. Back in the day CART came to Denver 2003ish or so. The called it F1 which I thought was odd as I knew it was CART but.... My dad and I parked for free, I got lucky as I was a college student downtown and showed my student ID and they waved me in. We got good seats on a short straight. I have the ticket stub and think they were $25ish each. They didn't charge extra for wandering around the pits and talking to the crews and drivers. COTA in Austin I think started at $500 each.
 
You think?

The racing series where every single spare inch of real estate on the vehicle is plastered with sponsor logos and the author feels the need to point out that "sponsorship talks"?

What an incredibly naïve article.



All that telemetry laying bare a driver's ability and still, drivers like Nikita Mazepin, Nicholas Latifi, and Mick Schumacher get multi-year contracts, even after underperformance.

Pay drivers have always been a thing (Mazepin/Latifi). So are big names that bring along sponsors (Schumacher).

Of course, your dad could just buy the team and give you a drive (Lance Stroll).

Or maybe it's just because a team wants to give a ride to an America driver during a period of rapid expansion in the American market and even got the FIA to stretch the rules to make it happen (Logan Sargeant).

Don't pretend F1 is some paragon of performance, where better drivers always get the seat.
I'd really enjoy seeing a study of what and why the top F1 drivers made it to the top. Yeah deep pockets help but are there people who truly "have a knack for driving?" I saw some of the exercise regimens and contract clauses of top F1 drivers and they work out alot, are told what to eat, and told what they can and can't do for fun. I worked for a hotel for seven years and had a knack with sales. Nine times out of ten if someone walked in they bought a room. I even had several people who were walk ins that ended up being regulars due to local business or whatnot. I was told that I could talk an eskimo into buying snow. I worked with many people that weren't good at customer service nor sales at all. Point is can you take a regular joe off the street and get them to F1 performance, even if they give 100 percent all in?
 
......... Point is can you take a regular joe off the street and get them to F1 performance, even if they give 100 percent all in?
No. They tried that with Scott Speed. Red Bull spent something like $25 million trying to "develop" his "talent". He went nowhere. He even tried to sue Red Bull for $6.5 million for canning him.

Look at Lance Stroll. He would never be in that seat if it weren't for his father owning the team. Yet Alonso is far older, and consistently out qualifies him with the same equipment.

On the other hand, if Nico Hulkenberg had the same equipment as Hamilton or Verstappen, he would be right up there with the best. He's a phenomenal driver that never got a good enough ride to prove it.
 
No. They tried that with Scott Speed. Red Bull spent something like $25 million trying to "develop" his "talent". He went nowhere. He even tried to sue Red Bull for $6.5 million for canning him.

Look at Lance Stroll. He would never be in that seat if it weren't for his father owning the team. Yet Alonso is far older, and consistently out qualifies him with the same equipment.

On the other hand, if Nico Hulkenberg had the same equipment as Hamilton or Verstappen, he would be right up there with the best. He's a phenomenal driver that never got a good enough ride to prove it.
A good video I found a while back showed the difference between a GT3 car, a Daytona prototype vehicle and a F1 car at SPA on the kink to the downhill section. The GT3 racecar looked like a model T, and the Daytona prototype looked not much faster. The F1 car was a blur. It's shocking that some people have that kind of ability.
 
On the other hand, if Nico Hulkenberg had the same equipment as Hamilton or Verstappen, he would be right up there with the best. He's a phenomenal driver that never got a good enough ride to prove it.

That's a bold statement about a driver who has never even stood on a podium in F1.

Perez handily out-performed Nico at Force India, managing to secure podium positions with a mid-field car, which is why Checo is standing on podiums for Red Bull and Nico is fighting (and typically failing) to secure points for Haas.
 
That's a bold statement about a driver who has never even stood on a podium in F1.

Perez handily out-performed Nico at Force India, managing to secure podium positions with a mid-field car, which is why Checo is standing on podiums for Red Bull and Nico is fighting (and typically failing) to secure points for Haas.
He's been in F1 for 14 years. You don't hang around that long in that sport because you stink. Just look at the amount of drivers that have come and gone in Formula 1 in that time frame.

Williams, Force India, Sauber, back to Force India, and finally Renault, over 14 years. You couldn't pick worse rides if you tried.

At any point during that time, had he been with a capable, performing, points winning team, his career would have taken off. Mario Andretti has even said as much.
 
He's been in F1 for 14 years. You don't hang around that long in that sport because you stink. Just look at the amount of drivers that have come and gone in Formula 1 in that time frame.

Williams, Force India, Sauber, back to Force India, and finally Renault, over 14 years. You couldn't pick worse rides if you tried.

At any point during that time, had he been with a capable, performing, points winning team, his career would have taken off. Mario Andretti has even said as much.
Don't forget Jaguar. Weren't they a one year or two year only team?
 
Don't forget Jaguar. Weren't they a one year or two year only team?
I remember Jaguar way back in the early 2000's. This was during Schumacher's 7 championship reign of terror. Before Hulkenberg. But you're correct, they weren't around long.

Back in 2004 they glued a diamond on the nose of one of the Jaguar's for the Monte Carlo Grand Prix. The car wrecked, and they lost the diamond. Talk about publicity stunts gone wrong.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...-diamond-in-first-of-a.7HGzmXmLsKpSYaKsBPk92d
 
I remember Jaguar way back in the early 2000's. This was during Schumacher's 7 championship reign of terror. Before Hulkenberg. But you're correct, they weren't around long.

Back in 2004 they glued a diamond on the nose of one of the Jaguar's for the Monte Carlo Grand Prix. The car wrecked, and they lost the diamond. Talk about publicity stunts gone wrong.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...-diamond-in-first-of-a.7HGzmXmLsKpSYaKsBPk92d
I remember that! I don't know who though it was a good idea.
 
Danica won an Indy car race, Daytona 500 pole, 2 top five and 6 top 10 finishes in the Indy 500.

No matter how either one of them looks outside of racing, Deegan can't and won't hold a candle to what Patrick has done.
 
Two top fives in the Indy 500, 6 top tens in the Indy 500? Don't mention what you did and conveniently leave that out. Winning an IndyCar race by any strategy means you won. 95% of career drivers haven't done any of those.

Sounds like stretching the fuel for Indy winners or NASCAR winners puts them in a second tier though by that measuring stick. Lol. Daytona 500 pole beat out Hall of Fame drivers. All those GUYS were in pretty good cars too. But I'm sure any one of us could just put it to the mat and run Daytona for the pole... excited to see an average Joe show up in the entry list come February 2025 and put it one the pole. Good luck, I'll be cheering for you.
 
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Two top fives in the Indy 500, 6 top tens in the Indy 500? Don't mention what you did and conveniently leave that out. Winning an IndyCar race by any strategy means you won. 95% of career drivers haven't done any of those.

Sounds like stretching the fuel for Indy winners or NASCAR winners puts them in a second tier though by that measuring stick. Lol. Daytona 500 pole beat out Hall of Fame drivers. All those GUYS were in pretty good cars too. But I'm sure any one of us could just put it to the mat and run Daytona for the pole... excited to see an average Joe show up in the entry list come February 2025 and put it one the pole. Good luck, I'll be cheering for you.

Having been involved in professional racing for 22 years or so ( I took a couple years off to attend to family matters), it is always amusing to overhear some of the comments from spectators. Some have it all figured out, as far as who can and can't drive, what a teams issues are and how to fix them, etc, etc.

I always wonder why if they are so capable and knowledgeable, why they aren't fielding a team, or the Crew Chief on a team at the very least...
 
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