Broken timing belt - Warranty?

[doitmyself]

Originally Posted By: Jimzz

Gates is a OEM maker. Many cars come with gates kits from the factory. I agree if you go with a white box timing bet kit you have no one to blame but yourself but gates supplies many car makers and others re-box gates kits as their own.

Often times aftermarket parts under a brand name are not the same as OE parts with the same brand name. For example, my Dodge dealer supplied Filtran transmission filter is U.S. made while the CarQuest Filtran filter with same part number is Chinese made.

 

[Jim_Truett]

Originally Posted By: doitmyself
Originally Posted By: Jimzz

Gates is a OEM maker. Many cars come with gates kits from the factory. I agree if you go with a white box timing bet kit you have no one to blame but yourself but gates supplies many car makers and others re-box gates kits as their own.

Often times aftermarket parts under a brand name are not the same as OE parts with the same brand name. For example, my Dodge dealer supplied Filtran transmission filter is U.S. made while the CarQuest Filtran filter with same part number is Chinese made.


This is true, but all of the Gates kits I have used in Honda/Acura applications use Japanese bearings and the belts are USA or Japan in origin. Their water pumps are usually Chinese, so I just order the kit without pump, and source an Aisin or Yamada pump unless the customer is short on cash.

 

[Trav]

Originally Posted By: Jimzz
Originally Posted By: Trav
Thats the problem with most of these aftermarket kits, they don't use the OE style double ball bearing in these dam pulleys. People trying to save a buck go for them.
AFAIK the only ones for sure that do contain the right stuff are OE, Aisin (OEM), and SKF kits but they cost a bit more.

I think its going to be a tough slog getting anything out of them, the garage that did the original install and doing the repair now may have a better chance.
I might look for a good used low miler engine, i think this one could have some real serious damage.

http://allwheeldriveauto.com/subaru-repair-seattle-timing-belt-idlers-explained/



Gates is a OEM maker. Many cars come with gates kits from the factory. I agree if you go with a white box timing bet kit you have no one to blame but yourself but gates supplies many car makers and others re-box gates kits as their own.

Gates uses mostly Aisin parts in their Japanese engine kits but do not use an Aisin pump, instead they use a cheap Chinese recast job. Gates also does reboxing in some cases.
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Water pump made in China. Quality looks so so. Some of the machined surfaces look rough. Should work not the same quality as an OEM one. Had I of known I would of went with the kit with out the pump. Still a great kit tho.


http://www.rallysportdirect.com/Gates-TCKWP328-Timing-Belt-Kit-w-Water-Pump

 

[Jimzz]

Yea I have been disappointed by gates water pumps. Not from failing, at least not yet, but being made in China.

I use to pay a little extra to get a gates water pump but now if they are all Chinese made/reboxs then I go by price and history.