Originally Posted By: ffracer
Cuz it doesn't work?
Signed,
owner of a BMW
In what way does it not work?
Cuz it doesn't work?
Signed,
owner of a BMW
In what way does it not work?
BMW's Condition Based Service System
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Originally Posted By: The Critic
Tests have proven that Dexron VI and the newest ZF factory fills are easily good for more than 100,000 miles even under the most extreme service conditions.
Do you have a link to these tests by any chance? I'm not questioning the statement. I am just curious to see those tests.
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Most other automakers are going 7-10k in between service with conventional oil, some even 12k.
Which automakers recommend 10k or 12k on dino?
Tests have proven that Dexron VI and the newest ZF factory fills are easily good for more than 100,000 miles even under the most extreme service conditions.
Do you have a link to these tests by any chance? I'm not questioning the statement. I am just curious to see those tests.
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Most other automakers are going 7-10k in between service with conventional oil, some even 12k.
Which automakers recommend 10k or 12k on dino?
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Do you have a link to these tests by any chance? I'm not questioning the statement. I am just curious to see those tests.
I just know that they are tests done by the OEM during their validation process, from my sources. Sorry I can't be more specific.
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Which automakers recommend 10k or 12k on dino?
Honda recommends 1 year or 10k on dino for it's 4-cylinders on the 2005 and older models. GM goes up to 12,500 miles on dino with their Oil Life Monitor.
Do you have a link to these tests by any chance? I'm not questioning the statement. I am just curious to see those tests.
I just know that they are tests done by the OEM during their validation process, from my sources. Sorry I can't be more specific.
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Which automakers recommend 10k or 12k on dino?
Honda recommends 1 year or 10k on dino for it's 4-cylinders on the 2005 and older models. GM goes up to 12,500 miles on dino with their Oil Life Monitor.
Doesn't Honda recommend 5w-20 oil? Isn't 5w-20 a synthetic blend?
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Doesn't Honda recommend 5w-20 oil? Isn't 5w-20 a synthetic blend?
On most models (some models require a 5w30, such as the TSX), and who knows.
Doesn't Honda recommend 5w-20 oil? Isn't 5w-20 a synthetic blend?
On most models (some models require a 5w30, such as the TSX), and who knows.
Originally Posted By: Big O Dave
As near as I can tell, BMW is striving to make their cars/SUVs as maintenance/problem-free as possible for the duration of the 3-year/60,000 mile warranty/service package...
...and that's it!
Good luck if you buy or keep one after that warranty/service package expires!
BMW's out of warranty will be deceptively low-priced, encouraging those who really can't afford to maintain them to buy them, and then you'll see a lot of ratty old BMW's driving around (until they won't run any more)... oh wait!
That's already happening!
I don't agree that it's already happening. There are many of us who own cars past the warranty who meticulously maintain our BMWs.
As near as I can tell, BMW is striving to make their cars/SUVs as maintenance/problem-free as possible for the duration of the 3-year/60,000 mile warranty/service package...
...and that's it!
Good luck if you buy or keep one after that warranty/service package expires!
BMW's out of warranty will be deceptively low-priced, encouraging those who really can't afford to maintain them to buy them, and then you'll see a lot of ratty old BMW's driving around (until they won't run any more)... oh wait!
That's already happening!
I don't agree that it's already happening. There are many of us who own cars past the warranty who meticulously maintain our BMWs.
my 88 528e has very simple low level sensors for the oil and coolant. Simple but accurate. When the LOL goes off, the engine needs a qt. I dont even bother checking the stick any more. The low coolant light goes off if the level loses more than a pint in the expansion tank. Neat feature and bone simple. If an E-28 over heats, its 100% the driver's fault. The wear sensors for the brake pads are just a loop of 22 gauge wire with a plug that fits in a notch on the pad. Pads are about 40$ an axle and sensors are 5$ apiece. It is gonna be a long while before I buy a car made in this millenium
I agree... there ARE plenty of BMW owners who keep their cars past the warranty period, and maintain them carefully. There are also a lot of people who know nothing about cars other than that BMWs are cood rolling jewelry and just want the "cred;" many of these folks consider "maintenance" a car wash and wax, and when the tires wear out they put Nankangs on the poor car.
Believe me, we see a LOT of those!
Believe me, we see a LOT of those!
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