BMW to replace N/A I-6 with Turbo 4
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I had heard that for their smaller cars. You can be sure there will be an NA 6cyl in the 3 forever...
That said, my 4cyl 3-series is a wonderful car!
That said, my 4cyl 3-series is a wonderful car!
As long as it has a decent exhaust note.
My turbo Saabs sounded great. And my 318is was FUN, and I really liked the 35 mpg.
My turbo Saabs sounded great. And my 318is was FUN, and I really liked the 35 mpg.
I am a big fan of the smaller turbocharged 4-cyls. When designed properly, they are incredibly fuel efficient and powerful while giving owners many potential options for tuning. A good example of this is the new EA888 2.0T in the MKVI GTI; that engine is incredibly powerful for a daily driver with no detectable turbo lag.
NVH issues prevent many of us from enjoying almost any inline 4.
BMW will sweat the details and make a sweet version for sure.
BMW will sweat the details and make a sweet version for sure.
I will miss the I6. A couple years ago the NA 3.0 i6 was making 265HP, they detuned it when the twin turbo motor was released.
I have no doubt they can make a nice strong turbo 4, but after owning the Audi turbo 4, the BMW inline 6 seems to be even more of a gem - and fairly economical.
I have no doubt they can make a nice strong turbo 4, but after owning the Audi turbo 4, the BMW inline 6 seems to be even more of a gem - and fairly economical.
I suspect many BMW I-6 buyers could buy turbo 4s from other automakers if they so choose.
Then again many like the BMW in their driveway and could care less what makes it tick.
My sister's friend's mom in high school had a beemer and she always waited until the last second to stop, then bragged about the awesome brakes.
Then again many like the BMW in their driveway and could care less what makes it tick.
One of the big draws to BMW for me is the I6. Not sure I'd buy a 4-cylinder BMW in this day and age. Other options available.
I'd rather see them turbo the smaller 2.5 I6, except in maybe the 1 series.
It's about time. BMW's current NA 4-cyl engines are pretty good.
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
NVH issues prevent many of us from enjoying almost any inline 4.
For the last decade BMW's fours use balance shafts if the displacement is high enough to be required. My mother drives a 320D (2 L 4-cyl turbodiesel) and it's smooth and pulls strong.
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
NVH issues prevent many of us from enjoying almost any inline 4.
For the last decade BMW's fours use balance shafts if the displacement is high enough to be required. My mother drives a 320D (2 L 4-cyl turbodiesel) and it's smooth and pulls strong.
Originally Posted By: Vikas
Is it true that many BMW do not have coolant temperature gauge on the dash?
Yes.
Is it true that many BMW do not have coolant temperature gauge on the dash?
Yes.
Originally Posted By: Kiwi_ME
It's about time. BMW's current NA 4-cyl engines are pretty good.
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
NVH issues prevent many of us from enjoying almost any inline 4.
For the last decade BMW's fours use balance shafts if the displacement is high enough to be required. My mother drives a 320D (2 L 4-cyl turbodiesel) and it's smooth and pulls strong.
Yes, the only I4 I've really liked was the 3.0L longitudinal I4 with Variocam and harmonic balance shafts in my Porsche 968. Smooth, torquey and quick. It had a lot of parasitic loss at light throttle angles between the 11:1 compression and the cam profile and drove a bit like a big block I guess. All others I've experienced seem to have a lot of NVH. As a driver of predominantly manual transmissions, I like having more cylinders firing when you're working the clutch down near idle - smoother launches and far less chance of a stall with low rpm take offs.
This is not to say that I wouldn't rule out the new BMW I4s without sampling - I have an open mind.
It's about time. BMW's current NA 4-cyl engines are pretty good.
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
NVH issues prevent many of us from enjoying almost any inline 4.
For the last decade BMW's fours use balance shafts if the displacement is high enough to be required. My mother drives a 320D (2 L 4-cyl turbodiesel) and it's smooth and pulls strong.
Yes, the only I4 I've really liked was the 3.0L longitudinal I4 with Variocam and harmonic balance shafts in my Porsche 968. Smooth, torquey and quick. It had a lot of parasitic loss at light throttle angles between the 11:1 compression and the cam profile and drove a bit like a big block I guess. All others I've experienced seem to have a lot of NVH. As a driver of predominantly manual transmissions, I like having more cylinders firing when you're working the clutch down near idle - smoother launches and far less chance of a stall with low rpm take offs.
This is not to say that I wouldn't rule out the new BMW I4s without sampling - I have an open mind.
^ That bugs me too. In my mind, any vehicle should have proper (not dummy gauges) oil pressure and coolant temp gauges. Oil temp would be nice too.
In the two I've owned (e32 and e34) they had gauges but you got the impression they were set up to always run dead in the center, probably to appease overly-fussy owners. I think in newer ones any issues with temperature would cause a ding and appear as a message in the control console. Frankly I think oil temperature would be far more useful.
Both BMW's 1.8 and 2.0 N42 gasoline engines (produced since 2001) have dual 2x speed balance shafts which practically make them as smooth as a six, even if they don't sound like one.
Both BMW's 1.8 and 2.0 N42 gasoline engines (produced since 2001) have dual 2x speed balance shafts which practically make them as smooth as a six, even if they don't sound like one.
Looks like it might be in 3 series...
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/01/28/officially-official-bmw-announces-2-0-liter-four-cylinder-turbo/
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BMW has yet to point out which models will be getting the new 2.0-liter turbo, but since the automaker specifically mentions that it offers more power and torque than the current naturally aspirated 3.0-liter inline-six, we wouldn't be shocked to learn that all cars with a 28i or 30i at the end of the name will now be powered by this four-pot mill....
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/01/28/officially-official-bmw-announces-2-0-liter-four-cylinder-turbo/
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BMW has yet to point out which models will be getting the new 2.0-liter turbo, but since the automaker specifically mentions that it offers more power and torque than the current naturally aspirated 3.0-liter inline-six, we wouldn't be shocked to learn that all cars with a 28i or 30i at the end of the name will now be powered by this four-pot mill....
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