Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
The AMSOIL warehouse is in Toronto, you just use his # when ordering IIRC. And he can of course sign you up for PC if you like.
The E39 M5 originally spec'd 10w-60 as well. Then cars produced after March, 2000, were spec'd for any BMW LL-01 oil (BMW 5w30, Mobil 1 0w-40, Castrol "GC" 0w-30....etc) and then BMW flip-flopped on that a few times.
This engine (the S62) also has had rod bearing issues, but it has mostly been attributed to cars that are tracked and suck air. It has a solenoid-controlled oil distribution system with "kicks" in the pan with the redirection setup to suck oil from the head and keep the engine engulfed under hard cornering. The solenoids activate (and the redirection/scavenging happens) at around the 1G mark. Unfortunately, the theory regarding the air sucking states that this is too high. That by the time the solenoid has engaged the secondary system, the engine has already starved for oil and bearing damage can happen.
Guys that don't track their cars don't have the issue from what I've heard.
I don't believe the rod bearing issue on the E46 M3 is the same, and had something to do with the bearing clearances being too tight or something along those lines.
I also don't believe that the E46 M3 ever called for an LL-01 oil, even in the most recent release from BMW, which back-spec'd a lot of engines for the LL-01 lubes.
Barring any information from BMW telling you that you are OK to run an LL-01 oil, I would acquire the TWS 10w-60 from the dealer (Maranellos can probably get you a great deal, they are a sponsor on maxbimmer) and use that.
If the car could use an LL-01 oil, my recommendation would be Mobil 1 0w-40, as it has been the choice of many in the M5 crowd, carries the proper BMW approval and is inexpensive and easy to obtain.
Ya thats the thing, I am never going to track this car, at most give it some juice down some nice twisty roads, on the weekend or evenings, I can't ever see myself being in a condition or putting it in the condition of torturing the oil, and I wouldn't mind running a few short intervals of mobil 1 to clean anything up that may or may not be in there, more for piece of mind. The car has been babied, only 60k.....kilometers. And if I store it in a non heated garage such as mine, during the winter I will start up from time to time and the thought of a 60 in the pan kinda makes me cringe, although some have stated that it isn't a issue.
The AMSOIL warehouse is in Toronto, you just use his # when ordering IIRC. And he can of course sign you up for PC if you like.
The E39 M5 originally spec'd 10w-60 as well. Then cars produced after March, 2000, were spec'd for any BMW LL-01 oil (BMW 5w30, Mobil 1 0w-40, Castrol "GC" 0w-30....etc) and then BMW flip-flopped on that a few times.
This engine (the S62) also has had rod bearing issues, but it has mostly been attributed to cars that are tracked and suck air. It has a solenoid-controlled oil distribution system with "kicks" in the pan with the redirection setup to suck oil from the head and keep the engine engulfed under hard cornering. The solenoids activate (and the redirection/scavenging happens) at around the 1G mark. Unfortunately, the theory regarding the air sucking states that this is too high. That by the time the solenoid has engaged the secondary system, the engine has already starved for oil and bearing damage can happen.
Guys that don't track their cars don't have the issue from what I've heard.
I don't believe the rod bearing issue on the E46 M3 is the same, and had something to do with the bearing clearances being too tight or something along those lines.
I also don't believe that the E46 M3 ever called for an LL-01 oil, even in the most recent release from BMW, which back-spec'd a lot of engines for the LL-01 lubes.
Barring any information from BMW telling you that you are OK to run an LL-01 oil, I would acquire the TWS 10w-60 from the dealer (Maranellos can probably get you a great deal, they are a sponsor on maxbimmer) and use that.
If the car could use an LL-01 oil, my recommendation would be Mobil 1 0w-40, as it has been the choice of many in the M5 crowd, carries the proper BMW approval and is inexpensive and easy to obtain.
Ya thats the thing, I am never going to track this car, at most give it some juice down some nice twisty roads, on the weekend or evenings, I can't ever see myself being in a condition or putting it in the condition of torturing the oil, and I wouldn't mind running a few short intervals of mobil 1 to clean anything up that may or may not be in there, more for piece of mind. The car has been babied, only 60k.....kilometers. And if I store it in a non heated garage such as mine, during the winter I will start up from time to time and the thought of a 60 in the pan kinda makes me cringe, although some have stated that it isn't a issue.
