Block long wait to be charged

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there are some Tesla chargers out in the desert in a small hole in the wall town called Yermo,ca with no other services. The wait is a block long.

How long would this wait be?
 

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Yep-an old charger. It will probably be upgraded or more added at another location.

The electric cars are coming BITOGers !
 
Using the proper sized wrench for the job comes to mind. Society is mostly Tv programmed people.
 
The two reviews also say 75w which of course means 75kw, the “hoses” are bad, the charging is fat, and the charging is incredibly fast. Then it adds its a long grade up from there to wherever, so that’s why all those folks out of battery are willing to go camping.
 
Probably 20 minutes to charge to a level to get you to the next one.
Yeah, just found this, not for me, 20 minutes is 18 minutes too long to refuel a vehicle for me and according to the article is not meant to be a primary way to charge (fast charging) if you can even find a fast charge station. 🙃 ...
https://mechanicbase.com/electric/how-long-does-it-take-to-fully-charge-a-tesla/

https://www.way.com/blog/how-long-does-it-take-to-fully-charge-a-tesla/

All good, EVs serve a purpose for many and gasoline serves a purpose for many. We are about 20 years away from when an EV can serve all purposes. If then... if we knew that answer we could invest in the company that will make it possible... but not there yet.

The only thing I have to disagree with is proponents who make blanket statements that an EV cost less to fuel up. The first link I posted the writer says that and nothing could be further than the truth if you rely on charging stations that charge you just like a gas station.
Up to .70 kWh ... to me that means to fast charge an EV for a 400 mile range you would be looking at up to $70. or more realistic 300 mile range for up to $50 how is that less expensive?
Keeping in mind only up to 4% of the market is EV and there are no fuel taxes on them YET.

Again, you EV owners dont take my post personal, just discussing some misconceptions in the media. EVs are best for homeowners who can plug in at home overnight, on the road you are going to pay either in high prices OR long wait and charge times. Also we know you arent at this point going to be able to get a big SUV capable of hauling a boat for a long range... they all have specific purposes and I am not against EVs.
Nephew has a new Mustang LOVES it.
https://thebluedot.co/how-much-does-it-cost-to-charge-your-ev-at-public-charging-stations/
 
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Again, you EV owners dont take my post personal, just discussing some misconceptions in the media. EVs are best for homeowners who can plug in at home overnight, on the road you are going to pay either in high prices OR long wait and charge times.


And this will become expensive too as most homeowners don’t have the proper service or wiring to set up a charger. Add to that the price of electricity is going up like everything else these days.
 
And this will become expensive too as most homeowners don’t have the proper service or wiring to set up a charger. Add to that the price of electricity is going up like everything else these days.
This was just a subject on our community FB page. Most installs are running from $500.00 to $700.00. BTW-there are still 90% less moving parts in an EV than an ICE-that won't change-much.
 
This was just a subject on our community FB page. Most installs are running from $500.00 to $700.00. BTW-there are still 90% less moving parts in an EV than an ICE-that won't change-much.
True, there are fewer parts in EV than ICE. But I've had multiple ICE vehicles I've owned 10, 15, and sometimes 20 years with no loss in range and usability over those times. The core component in EVs by its nature degrades over time. I sold my 02 Ford Focus in the fall with 240K miles on it and at that time it still was getting the same mpg as it did when I purchased it many years ago. What would that Focus' range be were it an EV? Would it even still be on the road save for a battery replacement costing many times its re-sale value?

The car I purchased to replace the Focus is a 12-year-old Mazda 3 with 60K miles, so plenty of life left in it, even for someone like me who commutes 60 miles a day round trip for work. What would a 12-year-old EV even be able to do, short of dumping massive money into it? Cars (outside of those deemed worthy of collector's item status) are basically expenses that we take on, more often than not out of necessity more than any other reason. Affordability (both near and long term) and longevity are extremely important considerations for the vast majority of folks for whom purchasing a vehicle is no easy feat financially, and is quickly approaching levels of financial difficulty once reserved for trying to purchase a home.
 
True, there are fewer parts in EV than ICE. But I've had multiple ICE vehicles I've owned 10, 15, and sometimes 20 years with no loss in range and usability over those times. The core component in EVs by its nature degrades over time. I sold my 02 Ford Focus in the fall with 240K miles on it and at that time it still was getting the same mpg as it did when I purchased it many years ago. What would that Focus' range be were it an EV? Would it even still be on the road save for a battery replacement costing many times its re-sale value?

The car I purchased to replace the Focus is a 12-year-old Mazda 3 with 60K miles, so plenty of life left in it, even for someone like me who commutes 60 miles a day round trip for work. What would a 12-year-old EV even be able to do, short of dumping massive money into it? Cars (outside of those deemed worthy of collector's item status) are basically expenses that we take on, more often than not out of necessity more than any other reason. Affordability (both near and long term) and longevity are extremely important considerations for the vast majority of folks for whom purchasing a vehicle is no easy feat financially, and is quickly approaching levels of financial difficulty once reserved for trying to purchase a home.
That's another issue in development. The ease of changing the battery packs/and the recycling of those batteries. All these objections-grid, life, etc.,etc., recycling, these are all being addressed-but those at least as smart of some on here.
 
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