Don't apologize, all good information. I am now open to the "other brands" and will be stocking up when I can. I bought a case of Havoleeeen 5W30 last night and I'm going back for 5W20 tonight while I can get rebate. penn. platinum has a good rebate going but it is a little salty $ for now. I've never had a positive experience at Home Depoo and Walmart is becoming a test of patience, endurance and all reason anymore. Pretty soon we'll have to pay them to shop there or tip the zombie like employees! Menerds is next on the hit list!
