Bleeding brakes
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It won't matter at all if you are just bleeding the brakes. If you are replacing the brake fluid then those instructions are in order of farthest from the master cylinder. However nearly all 'newer' cars have ABS. Nearly all ABS systems are closer to the front of the car so those instructions are still true. The best answer is whatever your factory service manual states, so check up on the online forums for your particular car.
In the real-world though, regardless of all what I stated above it doesn't matter. I still bleed in the order you mentioned except this past weekend where I got interrupted, got lazy and did it passenger rear, pass front, driver rear, driver front. I still sleep well at night.
In the real-world though, regardless of all what I stated above it doesn't matter. I still bleed in the order you mentioned except this past weekend where I got interrupted, got lazy and did it passenger rear, pass front, driver rear, driver front. I still sleep well at night.
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Bleed the diagonal components. Right rear-Left front, Left rear-Right front. You are actually dealing with two separate systems. How long have we had that? About 30 years?
Originally Posted By: HosteenJorje
Bleed the diagonal components. Right rear-Left front, Left rear-Right front. You are actually dealing with two separate systems. How long have we had that? About 30 years?
What systems are truly diagonal? Chrysler did that in the 1960s when there were drums on all corners, but disc/drum and even disc/disc need radically different pressures front and rear. (They also want to engineer in understeer, guaranteeing the front skids first.)
Bleed the diagonal components. Right rear-Left front, Left rear-Right front. You are actually dealing with two separate systems. How long have we had that? About 30 years?
What systems are truly diagonal? Chrysler did that in the 1960s when there were drums on all corners, but disc/drum and even disc/disc need radically different pressures front and rear. (They also want to engineer in understeer, guaranteeing the front skids first.)
The service manual for the vehicle will tell the proper sequence. It may be the old "passenger rear first" or it may not be.
Originally Posted By: Lubener
Farthest from master cylinder and finish with the nearest.
+1. This is what I thought was the correct order.
Farthest from master cylinder and finish with the nearest.
+1. This is what I thought was the correct order.
It depends on the vehicle. Some have a specific bleeding order and if not followed the pedal will not feel right.
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
It depends on the vehicle. Some have a specific bleeding order and if not followed the pedal will not feel right.
Agree.
My cars didn't specify the order, but I almost always do the rears first then the fronts.
Most newer vehicles have 4-channel ABS and the order is irrelevant.
It depends on the vehicle. Some have a specific bleeding order and if not followed the pedal will not feel right.
Agree.
My cars didn't specify the order, but I almost always do the rears first then the fronts.
Most newer vehicles have 4-channel ABS and the order is irrelevant.
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Originally Posted By: HosteenJorje
Bleed the diagonal components. Right rear-Left front, Left rear-Right front. You are actually dealing with two separate systems. How long have we had that? About 30 years?
What systems are truly diagonal? Chrysler did that in the 1960s when there were drums on all corners, but disc/drum and even disc/disc need radically different pressures front and rear. (They also want to engineer in understeer, guaranteeing the front skids first.)
Every vehicle on the road has a diagonal or split braking system. That's why there are two lines coming out of the master cylinder. The DOT requires split breaking systems and has done so for about three decades.
Originally Posted By: HosteenJorje
Bleed the diagonal components. Right rear-Left front, Left rear-Right front. You are actually dealing with two separate systems. How long have we had that? About 30 years?
What systems are truly diagonal? Chrysler did that in the 1960s when there were drums on all corners, but disc/drum and even disc/disc need radically different pressures front and rear. (They also want to engineer in understeer, guaranteeing the front skids first.)
Every vehicle on the road has a diagonal or split braking system. That's why there are two lines coming out of the master cylinder. The DOT requires split breaking systems and has done so for about three decades.
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Most newer vehicles have 4-channel ABS and the order is irrelevant.
Good point.
Most newer vehicles have 4-channel ABS and the order is irrelevant.
Good point.
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