BG vs LUBEGARD

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I believe Honda uses BG and all the transmission guys I talk to use Lubeguard (maybe because BG doesn't offer what they need). Both good, I'd say.
 
Lubegard was brought about by a guy that formulated the original Mobil 1. I forget his name but a very intelligent man indeed. Pretty much any transmission shop you walk into will have Lubegard for sale. I have used it for years ( the RED bottle and the power steering protectant) and have actually noticed that it does what it promises in most cases. I believe it is a plant ester technology. I have never used BG.
 
actually i use both products..i use lubegards engine protect, its a great friction mod, in my oil and bg limited slipII in my diff. and lubegard platinum in my transmissions and transfer case.
 
Originally Posted By: AzFireGuy79
Lubegard was brought about by a guy that formulated the original Mobil 1. I forget his name but a very intelligent man indeed. Pretty much any transmission shop you walk into will have Lubegard for sale. I have used it for years ( the RED bottle and the power steering protectant) and have actually noticed that it does what it promises in most cases. I believe it is a plant ester technology. I have never used BG.


From their website:

LUBEGARD® technology was developed under the direction of Phillip S. Landis, Ph.D., a highly distinquished research chemist who headed the Mobil Oil Applied Lubrication Research Group until his retirement in 1984. Dr. Landis is a worldwide leader in the mechanistic studies of elimination, rearrangement and pyrolysis reactions of additive preparations for fuel and lubricant applications, and of catalytic organic reactions and petrochemicals. He holds more than one hundred patents.
 
Originally Posted By: Johnny
Originally Posted By: AzFireGuy79
Lubegard was brought about by a guy that formulated the original Mobil 1. I forget his name but a very intelligent man indeed. Pretty much any transmission shop you walk into will have Lubegard for sale. I have used it for years ( the RED bottle and the power steering protectant) and have actually noticed that it does what it promises in most cases. I believe it is a plant ester technology. I have never used BG.


From their website:

LUBEGARD® technology was developed under the direction of Phillip S. Landis, Ph.D., a highly distinquished research chemist who headed the Mobil Oil Applied Lubrication Research Group until his retirement in 1984. Dr. Landis is a worldwide leader in the mechanistic studies of elimination, rearrangement and pyrolysis reactions of additive preparations for fuel and lubricant applications, and of catalytic organic reactions and petrochemicals. He holds more than one hundred patents.


And you don't think Mobil 1 and Amsoil have excellent chemists working for them?. Or a team of excellent chemists?. The patents he filed while an employee of Mobil are the IP (intellectual property) of Mobil and not himself or any other company.
 
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hi johnny,i have a 98 ford expedition one of my vehicles


I would think the D4 Red Line and the 75W-140 Red Line gear oil would be all that you need without any additional additives.

Both Lubegard and BG make good products I just think they are not necessary in your application.
 
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I have Redline D4 with lubeguard platinum in wife's 2003 Honda Accord with magnefine filter. The car shifts great although no notable difference from just Redline D4. I will run the ATF at least 30 K with this setup
 
I run Lubegard w/ Maxlife in my Honda auto. Works great! I run it with regular dex III in my SAAB. Actually, I have a bit of the red and a splash of arx in there right now. My transmission is still slowly dying, though.
 
Originally Posted By: BrianWC
I run Lubegard w/ Maxlife in my Honda auto. Works great! I run it with regular dex III in my SAAB. Actually, I have a bit of the red and a splash of arx in there right now. My transmission is still slowly dying, though.


Is Lubegard Bio, and their transmission formula compatible with A-Rx?

Frank D
 
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Originally Posted By: Johnny
Originally Posted By: AzFireGuy79
Lubegard was brought about by a guy that formulated the original Mobil 1. I forget his name but a very intelligent man indeed. Pretty much any transmission shop you walk into will have Lubegard for sale. I have used it for years ( the RED bottle and the power steering protectant) and have actually noticed that it does what it promises in most cases. I believe it is a plant ester technology. I have never used BG.


From their website:

LUBEGARD® technology was developed under the direction of Phillip S. Landis, Ph.D., a highly distinquished research chemist who headed the Mobil Oil Applied Lubrication Research Group until his retirement in 1984. Dr. Landis is a worldwide leader in the mechanistic studies of elimination, rearrangement and pyrolysis reactions of additive preparations for fuel and lubricant applications, and of catalytic organic reactions and petrochemicals. He holds more than one hundred patents.


And you don't think Mobil 1 and Amsoil have excellent chemists working for them?. Or a team of excellent chemists?. The patents he filed while an employee of Mobil are the IP (intellectual property) of Mobil and not himself or any other company.


Never said that. Mobil, Amsoil, Shell, and a lot of other companies have excellent chemists working for them. I was just answering AzFireGuy79 question about the head chemist that works for International Lubricants. And I agree about intellectual property being Mobils. My Dad worked for the Mobil Field Research Lab in Dallas for 30-years and he invented some sort of exploration tool. He had to sign the design over to Mobil and they have the patent on it. I still have the original drawing and blueprints, and a copy of the papers where he had to sign it over to Mobil.
 
I don't know that the biogard is something I would run with arx. I probably shouldn't have run the red formula and arx together but I just figured that they were both essentially cleaning esters.
 
Lubegard is an additive that is intended run continuously with your fluid of choice with the idea that it may improve the quality of that fluid. It does contain bio-derived esters as well as other compounds.

Auto-Rx is intended as a safe cleaner to use in your transmission for 1000-1500 miles to gently clean the metal throughout the unit. It is recommended to do a complete fluid exchange after the cleaning miles have been run. No "rinse" cycle is needed for automatic transmission application. Just go back with your fluid of choice or recommended fluid.

If you have some Lubegard in there with the ARX, just run it longer, like 1500 miles. They are both esters, and it may take a few more miles to clean it completely.
 
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