I was at the dealer getting my oil changed this morning and the service guy recommended BG MOA. Due to the mileage (260k). I declined. How does everyone feel about this product? How do you feel about a service guy recommending oil additves?
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I've used it once after an engine flush with BG109 mainly because it was recommended. However, I don't think it's necessary when using syn. oil.
give it a shot.
i learned that the moa is designed for older oils which mixes well unlike newer oil moa does not mix well and is useless.also there is not enough in it to make any diffence...usethe lubegard products.
Originally Posted By: boxcartommie22
i learned that the moa is designed for older oils which mixes well unlike newer oil moa does not mix well and is useless.also there is not enough in it to make any diffence...usethe lubegard products.
Says who?
i learned that the moa is designed for older oils which mixes well unlike newer oil moa does not mix well and is useless.also there is not enough in it to make any diffence...usethe lubegard products.
Says who?
•Current ASA National Board of Director Member
•Served as ASA CO education director, Mechanical Division President and special events coordinator
•2007 ASA Communicator of the Year
•National Automotive Service Task Force Board Government Affairs
•Served 3 years as independent technical member of the Ford Dispute Settlement Board
•NAPA AutoCare Center and founding member of the Colorado Select NAPA AutoCare Centers.
•2000 NAPA ASE Regional Technician of the year
•2001 NAPA ASE Regional Technician of the year
•Judge for the Colorado finals Votech Skills USA competition 1987-2003
•Test question contributor for 4 of the ASE technician certification tests
•2004 Curriculum development panel for the National Automotive Technicians •Consults with the Colorado Attorney General on automotive cases.
•Host “Drive Radio” a consumer call in show on Denver’s KHOW AM630 since 1997
•Host GearHeads Performance Radio AM 560
•Consults with Insurance companies and private individuals as an expert witness in litigation. Expert witness in cases in Adams and Jefferson County.
•Testified for Congress in 2004 concerning Right to Repair bill.
•Testified for Massachusetts Assembly 2007 concerning information availability to the aftermarket
•Testified and demonstrated automotive information availability and technology to New Jersey legislature 2007
•Den Leader Webelos Pack 274 Cub Scouts Lincoln Academy Arvada, CO
i got moa info from donny seyfer on drive radio here on sat
•Served as ASA CO education director, Mechanical Division President and special events coordinator
•2007 ASA Communicator of the Year
•National Automotive Service Task Force Board Government Affairs
•Served 3 years as independent technical member of the Ford Dispute Settlement Board
•NAPA AutoCare Center and founding member of the Colorado Select NAPA AutoCare Centers.
•2000 NAPA ASE Regional Technician of the year
•2001 NAPA ASE Regional Technician of the year
•Judge for the Colorado finals Votech Skills USA competition 1987-2003
•Test question contributor for 4 of the ASE technician certification tests
•2004 Curriculum development panel for the National Automotive Technicians •Consults with the Colorado Attorney General on automotive cases.
•Host “Drive Radio” a consumer call in show on Denver’s KHOW AM630 since 1997
•Host GearHeads Performance Radio AM 560
•Consults with Insurance companies and private individuals as an expert witness in litigation. Expert witness in cases in Adams and Jefferson County.
•Testified for Congress in 2004 concerning Right to Repair bill.
•Testified for Massachusetts Assembly 2007 concerning information availability to the aftermarket
•Testified and demonstrated automotive information availability and technology to New Jersey legislature 2007
•Den Leader Webelos Pack 274 Cub Scouts Lincoln Academy Arvada, CO
i got moa info from donny seyfer on drive radio here on sat
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i learn alot from these guys on the gear head show followed by the napa auto care show hosted by the same guys very informative and if they say it then its true and not made up bull.
Originally Posted By: boxcartommie22
•Current ASA National Board of Director Member
•Served as ASA CO education director, Mechanical Division President and special events coordinator
•2007 ASA Communicator of the Year
•National Automotive Service Task Force Board Government Affairs
•Served 3 years as independent technical member of the Ford Dispute Settlement Board
•NAPA AutoCare Center and founding member of the Colorado Select NAPA AutoCare Centers.
•2000 NAPA ASE Regional Technician of the year
•2001 NAPA ASE Regional Technician of the year
•Judge for the Colorado finals Votech Skills USA competition 1987-2003
•Test question contributor for 4 of the ASE technician certification tests
•2004 Curriculum development panel for the National Automotive Technicians •Consults with the Colorado Attorney General on automotive cases.
•Host “Drive Radio” a consumer call in show on Denver’s KHOW AM630 since 1997
•Host GearHeads Performance Radio AM 560
•Consults with Insurance companies and private individuals as an expert witness in litigation. Expert witness in cases in Adams and Jefferson County.
•Testified for Congress in 2004 concerning Right to Repair bill.
•Testified for Massachusetts Assembly 2007 concerning information availability to the aftermarket
•Testified and demonstrated automotive information availability and technology to New Jersey legislature 2007
•Den Leader Webelos Pack 274 Cub Scouts Lincoln Academy Arvada, CO
i got moa info from donny seyfer on drive radio here on sat
There is nothing from that list or the website to suggest that Donny Seyfer is an expert on engine oil and/or additive formulations. Therefore, I have no reason to believe that his wild claim that MOA "does not mix well" is true unless there is some scientifically proven evidence to support that statement.
Although I am not suggesting that BG MOA works, I would like to see some evidence that this stuff "does not mix properly" with conventional oil.
•Current ASA National Board of Director Member
•Served as ASA CO education director, Mechanical Division President and special events coordinator
•2007 ASA Communicator of the Year
•National Automotive Service Task Force Board Government Affairs
•Served 3 years as independent technical member of the Ford Dispute Settlement Board
•NAPA AutoCare Center and founding member of the Colorado Select NAPA AutoCare Centers.
•2000 NAPA ASE Regional Technician of the year
•2001 NAPA ASE Regional Technician of the year
•Judge for the Colorado finals Votech Skills USA competition 1987-2003
•Test question contributor for 4 of the ASE technician certification tests
•2004 Curriculum development panel for the National Automotive Technicians •Consults with the Colorado Attorney General on automotive cases.
•Host “Drive Radio” a consumer call in show on Denver’s KHOW AM630 since 1997
•Host GearHeads Performance Radio AM 560
•Consults with Insurance companies and private individuals as an expert witness in litigation. Expert witness in cases in Adams and Jefferson County.
•Testified for Congress in 2004 concerning Right to Repair bill.
•Testified for Massachusetts Assembly 2007 concerning information availability to the aftermarket
•Testified and demonstrated automotive information availability and technology to New Jersey legislature 2007
•Den Leader Webelos Pack 274 Cub Scouts Lincoln Academy Arvada, CO
i got moa info from donny seyfer on drive radio here on sat
There is nothing from that list or the website to suggest that Donny Seyfer is an expert on engine oil and/or additive formulations. Therefore, I have no reason to believe that his wild claim that MOA "does not mix well" is true unless there is some scientifically proven evidence to support that statement.
Although I am not suggesting that BG MOA works, I would like to see some evidence that this stuff "does not mix properly" with conventional oil.
It's the dealer kickacks that bother me, pushing a product they make money on whether it is needed or nor. Unethical.
I'm wondering the same thing, or at least what the profit margin is. A local Ford dealership, along with the Infiniti dealership, push this nonsense, in direct violation of the owners manuals' recommendations.
I have used it before and would use it again, although I seem to have better luck with their RF 7
i love bg products!! but i beleieve the moa needs to be updated.
The city I reside in uses BG MOA in their entire fleet of city vehicles, as well as the fire/police units. The mechanics speak highly of BG products and use it in their respective Jeeps/4x4. The engines stay clean and run hard every day.
I guess its matter of personal opinion. I doubt that soccer vans need the additives. Just a thought.
I guess its matter of personal opinion. I doubt that soccer vans need the additives. Just a thought.
I always use synthetic oil (pennzoil platinum or Mobil1). But this time the car was at the dealer for service and I asked them to perform an oil change while it was there. They used Valvoline bulk oil for the oil change. Do you think if I added a can of BG MOA it would help the engine oil or am I just squeamish?
Btw, I live in Dallas, TX and I do like to rev my engine to 4-6k in my daily driving.
Btw, I live in Dallas, TX and I do like to rev my engine to 4-6k in my daily driving.
even better add a bottle lubegard bio engine prot
Talking about lubegard, can i use the heavy duty stuff in my car?
yes
Too bad none of the oreilly near me carries the lubegard
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