BEWARE! Quaker State Filters with Defective ADBV Alert!!!

[BlazerLT]

quote:

---

Originally posted by Hootbro:
Your test is so flawed. Seals for pnuematics (air) are totally different than you would find on oil, hydraulic and fuel. Prime example would be in aviation. Planes that do not fly leak after extended down time. Seals have to be wetted to maintain proper seal. Your air test on a oil designed seal is invalid even if the other filters seal with them.

Hootbro

---

I never said this was the tell all test and if you re-read my first post I said it was a crude test.

When every filter tested seals and these don't then that is enough for me to deem them to me MORE PROBABLE to not seal properly.

So don't get all propeller-head on me.

 

[BlazerLT]

quote:

---

Originally posted by beanoil:
I think you will find the filters to be fine. As stated, holding air, and holding a viscous liquid are two different things. In addition, the oil will have agents in it to make the seal more pliable, and swell slightly. Don't worry.

---

True, but I have been noticing some startup dry lifter clatter that was not there before using these filters.

 

[Hootbro]

quote:

---

So don't get all propeller-head on me. [/QB]

---

I try and not talk over your head next time.

 

[BlazerLT]

quote:

---

Originally posted by Hootbro:

quote:

---

So don't get all propeller-head on me.

---

I try and not talk over your head next time.

[/QB]

---

Hard not to when that propellar keeps on making you airborne.

 

[sjlee]

Does the clatter go away with the Maxlife filters?

quote:

---

Originally posted by BlazerLT:
I thought this too, but I have had some dry startup lifter clatter on my truck for a while now since going to these filters.

Never happened before even with the Fram X2 but it has a silicone ADBV and sealed really well.

The thing is every one of the Maxlife filters were airtight right out of the box.

The about of air being let through is enough that even when oiled it will sill not seal properly.

---

 

[BlazerLT]

Will soon find out, the next oil change is soon.

Noise was not there until I started using these filters.

 

[The_Jeff]

I really like this blow test.

What gets me is I think they have a very thin layer of WD40 or cosmoline or some anti-rust or cutting oil. One has to pucker their lips like blowing into a trumpet to not taste the stuff. Depending on how deep the threads are in relation to the gasket and baseplate it's a tough seal.

Some of this cosmolene seems to be on the ADBV as well which should make it not totally dry and perhaps pliable enough.

I suppose I could get a hollow bolt with my 3/4x16 thread pitch and make a "mouthpiece". Shoot I could probably put an air tool widget on there and test burst strength (Just kidding... kind of... the rubber would pop first which wouldn't apply to it being mounted on the car)

 

[BlazerLT]

it is a good rough test to see if it is wrking,l that failed indeed had a defective ADBV.

 

[FowVay]

Bringing this topic back from last week...

I purchased several filters for my Nissan truck. I bought two Nippon filters, two Mahle filters, and one Mann filter. All filters were purchased from a on-line source.

When they arrived I also did the pneumatic pressure test. One of the Nippon filters passed air unrestricted, all other filters were air tight.

So what I am going to do is use the two Nippon filters as my test. I'll install the leaky filter and see if I get unusual start-up noise and run it for a week. When I remove it I'll again blow air into the outlet and see if it still leaks. This could get messy but it's all in the name of curiosity satisfaction. Then I'll install the air tight Nippon filter and see if there's any noticeable difference.

Regardless of this outcome, I am going to stick with the Mahle filters. For $2.35 this is the heaviest and nicest looking filter I've seen for the Nissan.

 

[BlazerLT]

inspected the defective filters and there was a defect.

The ADBV could be seen bulging around the center outlet hole.

Manufacturing error.

 

[gogozy]

mm, interesting fidning on ADBV on QS. i will try the pneumatic test, i like the idea of testing ABDV before put oil filter in service.