Best way to deal with insomnia

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Up BITOGing after waking up at 1:45 to deal with a thirsty kid. When this happens, I'm usually up for an hour and a half, minimum. Almost there now, in fact.

My last, best get back to sleep trick is pretty safe and works almost every time. I eat a bowl of cereal and drink the milk. Not sure what it is, but when I take this "medicine", it puts me out. Just had a dose of Crispix and 2 percent.

I'd be curious to know what works for others. 'Night.
 
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I just tune into South Main Auto on YouTube; that guy puts me out like a light.


I watch him too. He's a good guy.
 
I wake up atleast once to take a leak everynighht. I can always fall bwck asleep prety easy, unless I pick up my phone to see if I have any notifications. Once I do that im screwed
 
Originally Posted By: edwardh1
more daytime exercise?


That works me . An hour bicycle ride several times a week. Fighting nature's elements wears me out and no napping during the day.
 
A healthy, active lifestyle with plenty of physical exercise during the day. No caffeine after 8:00 am and no napping during the day.

The bedroom is an environment conducive to sleep. It's kept cool and comfortable with no electronic or other distractions. Both my wife and I sleep well every night.
 
If you're having a real problem with sleeping see a doctor that specializes in sleep disorders.

I lived with sleep apnea for almost 30 years before getting diagnosed and treated. I wake up now more refreshed, don't get drowsy in the afternoon, and because I'm sleeping better I need less sleep overall.

BSW
 
Originally Posted By: HawkeyeScott
Up BITOGing after waking up at 1:45 to deal with a thirsty kid. When this happens, I'm usually up for an hour and a half, minimum. Almost there now, in fact.

My last, best get back to sleep trick is pretty safe and works almost every time. I eat a bowl of cereal and drink the milk. Not sure what it is, but when I take this "medicine", it puts me out. Just had a dose of Crispix and 2 percent.

I'd be curious to know what works for others. 'Night.


What worked for me? Taking care of the root cause - if the child's old enough(2 1/2, 3), put a glassplastic/sippy cup next to their bed. Tell them they are starting to grow up, etc. Worked well for my daughter, lessened the middle of the night wakeups. Also helped at bedtime when she was trying to stay up later...
 
Not much light to deal with. Mind just wakes up. Failed to mention I spent 12 years waking up at 4 am for work. New job the last two years with normal hours, but the body has yet to adjust. Still wake up around 4 about 75 percent of nights, even if alarm is set for a more normal time.
 
Originally Posted By: HawkeyeScott
Not much light to deal with. Mind just wakes up. Failed to mention I spent 12 years waking up at 4 am for work. New job the last two years with normal hours, but the body has yet to adjust. Still wake up around 4 about 75 percent of nights, even if alarm is set for a more normal time.


You've developed a circadian rhythm that will be hard to change...

But I'll tell you this: any electronic device, ipad, smart phone, computer, is like crack for your brain, and it absolutely will prevent you from falling asleep...

IF you wake up, leave the smart phone (and BITOG) alone...they will serve only to increase your wakefulness...



More from my Doc's most recent e-mail on this:

Insomnia is a serious sleep disorder.

It can involve difficulty falling or staying asleep, waking too early or not getting quality sleep. It can also cause distress or impaired functioning.

But there are many ways to treat insomnia, and this is important because insomnia can negatively impact overall health and quality of life.

Causes

Situational factors that contribute to insomnia include cancer- and treatment-related symptoms, such as pain, nausea, hot flashes, diarrhea and incontinence. Poor sleep habits, daytime napping and negative thoughts about sleep can also contribute to and perpetuate insomnia.

In addition, drugs that treat cancer or its side effects, such as steroids and anti-nausea agents, may cause insomnia. Anxiety about procedures and their side effects, as well as the side effects themselves, are also contributing factors.

Symptoms and Consequences

Failure to get enough sleep or to obtain quality sleep can contribute to fatigue, daytime sleepiness, diminished concentration and memory, mood changes, depression, impaired immune function, pain, and poorer quality of life. It can also affect performance at work, caring for dependents and social life. In severe cases, insomnia could even affect safety.

Management

The first step in treating insomnia is to identify and treat the underlying cause. This may involve drugs or other treatment strategies to control symptoms, such as pain or hot flashes, that might be disrupting sleep. It's also important to rule out other physical sleep disorders, such as obstructive sleep apnea, restless leg syndrome or periodic limb movement.

The most common treatment for insomnia involves the use of hypnotic drugs, but they generally should not be used for more than a few weeks. Possible limitations of some drugs include dependence and tolerance, as well as withdrawal or perhaps rebound insomnia when discontinued. Moreover, many hypnotics cause significant side effects, such as daytime drowsiness, light-headedness, headaches and memory impairment. Non-pharmacologic strategies include:

Avoiding or minimizing intake of caffeine and alcohol
Regular physical activity during the day
Cognitive-behavioral therapy
Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy

The National Cancer Institute recommends patients try cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) before resorting to drug therapy. CBT helps change negative thoughts and quell anxiety about sleep and learn to change sleep habits that interfere with sleeping well.

Studies have shown that CBT is as effective as drug therapies and can improve sleep in up to 70 to 80 percent of cancer patients. CBT has also been shown to decrease fatigue, anxiety and depressive symptoms while increasing quality of life. There are many CBT methods, typically used in combination, to achieve these goals.

Behavioral strategies include stimulus control (which focuses on connecting the subconscious with getting ready for bed, and being in bed only with sleeping) and sleep restriction (which limits time spent in bed that does not involve sleeping to increase the likelihood of being sleepy at bedtime the next night). Relaxation therapy with guided imagery and breathing exercises also helps to relieve stress and tension before bedtime.

Sleep hygiene education can be used with other CBT strategies but is not effective alone. Sleep hygiene includes relaxing before bedtime (by taking a warm bath, for example), avoiding computer or television use in the bedroom, avoiding naps during the day, creating a dark and comfortable sleeping environment, and sleeping and waking at the same time each day.

Obviously, from a cancer practice, but still a good comprehensive look at insomnia...
 
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Those are some very good points. I have "cured" my insomnia, I would suggest, and I suffered from it for so many years, it was ridiculous. I simply and luckily got to a position in life where I can follow my body's own natural schedule. In school, I suffered. In day jobs, I suffered. And, it didn't matter what I tried then. My natural bed time is after 5:00 a.m. and my natural wakeup time is around 1:30 p.m. I can accomplish that indefinitely without having any problems falling asleep on time or needing an alarm clock to get up. Of course, all that is assuming I don't drink a pot of coffee or something similarly stupid before bed.

Any time I ended up on day shifts, the only way to fall asleep at night would be to work myself to death to tire myself out.
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I was kind of short but it's very true, been using them a year now and they work like a charm. Take 50mg. and you sleep sound in less than an hour, the drug has been around since the 1940's and is used also as a antihistamine like in Benadryl..prescribed up to 450mg. in certain circumstances, called Diphenhydramine..I can't find any bad side effects. $1 for six nights sleep.
 
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