Been given some free Fuchs mystery oil

[NVJ157G]

A buddy of mine works in Fleets and has just given me a five litre bottle of a rather unusual mineral oil that was given to him by a rep from Fuchs. It is Fuchs Titan Universal HD 10W/30 All-Season.
Apparently it is current product and not old stock though I can find nothing about it on the Fuchs website but on the label it states it is good for cars, vans, trucks tractors and possibly the space shuttle....

It also displays these specs,

ACEA A2/B2/E2
CCMC D4/PD2/G4
API CD/CE/
CF-4/SJ/SH/SG
Allison C4
Caterpillar TO-2
Mercedes-Benz 228.1, 229.1
Volvo VDS
VW 505.00
VW 501.01

Any idea what I have here? 10W30 is pretty uncommon in the UK.

 

[chubbs1]

Definitely a diesel HDEO. If you have a diesel engine and it fits into those specs you could are good to go. Fuchs makes great products.

 

[NVJ157G]

Would it be OK in a petrol car?

Fuchs just emailed me the specs and I have no idea what it all means...


SAE Grade DIN 51 511 10W/30
Viscosity at -20ºC ASTM D 2602 3200 mPa
Kinematic Viscosity at 100ºC ASTM D 445 11.8 mm2/
Kinematic Viscosity at 40ºC ASTM D 445 80.2 mm2/
Viscosity Index ASTM D 2270 141
Flash Point ASTM D 92 215ºC
Specific Gravity at 15ºC ASTM D 1298 0.882 g/ml
Pour Point ASTM D 97 -31ºC

 

[yannis]

This oil would be perfect for a 15 year old car like Daewoo Matiz or Hyundai Atos.

 

[NVJ157G]

Would it do in an air cooled Volkswagen? Seen guys mention Diesel oils for these a few times.

 

[dparm]

Maybe use it for a lawnmower or something.

 

[NVJ157G]

OK I think I understand, not top flight stuff then.

 

[yannis]

If it meets Mercedes-Benz 228.1 ( diesel approval) and Mercedes-Benz 229.1 (petrol approval) it's a decent oil.

But

Originally Posted By: NVJ157G
Would it do in an air cooled Volkswagen? Seen guys mention Diesel oils for these a few times.


I am afraid these engines require 15W40 or 20W50 . Air cooled means higher oil temperatures ( oil acts like a coolant too) so it must be thick enough .

 

[NVJ157G]

'tis a shame, I rather liked the idea of running the Bug on it.

 

[Garak]

Maybe Doug will read this and give us his thoughts. I could think of a lot worse oils to use in an air cooled VW than this 10w-30, particularly in a UK winter.

 

[NVJ157G]

Well the thing is she doesn't really see any winter miles, just spring and summer though our summers aren't very hot.

 

[dparm]

Originally Posted By: NVJ157G
OK I think I understand, not top flight stuff then.


It's an okay product, but 10w30 is becoming a bit outdated. Most modern 5w30s will meet or beat it.

 

[Garak]

His 10w-30 is an HDEO. There certainly are more advanced 5w30 HDEOs out there, but price is another matter altogether.

 

[weasley]

Before replying I had to check the date this was posted to make sure it wasn't an ancient thread revival. Why? CCMC specs have been obsolete for YEARS, as has the ACEA A2/B2 category, so the assertion that this oil "is current product and not old stock" can not be relied upon.

What you have there is a 15-20 year old heavy duty diesel engine oil that would have been fair-to-middling back in the day but is pretty outdated now. Good enough for a ditch pump or cement mixer, maybe even an old truck or car which needs just "some oil".