Basic oil plan for new Jeep (asking the experts)

[Woodykak]

I've done enough here to become dangerous, and I'm looking for a bit of a summary.

New Jeep (V6 minifan motor) in Southern California. I drive about 10K miles per year.
I'd like to do a bypass filter and pre-oiler, but I just don't know that the cost is justified.

What Oil and what Filter would you recommend for the money?

How often to change my oil?

Thanks

 

[Woodykak]

Am looking for Brand. And will be willing to pay for synthetic. I already know that I need to run 5w-20.

 

[coffee]

Well, I think Motorcraft 5w20 Syn Blend is a great oil and could server you well. That is what I recommend for oil and it is cheap at Wal-Mart and you could do 5k OCI. As for filter I like the Mobil 1 Extended series but there are several others that can do just fine. Best of luck.

 

[farrarfan1]

You better define "experts".

 

[Woodykak]

Anybody who can understand what is talked about in this forum, is what I'd call and expert.

I like Coffee's answer. I'm lookin for short and sweet.

 

[Greaser]

If it were my Jeep, and that motor, I would Pennzoil Platinum in the 10w30 flavor with a Napa Gold oil & air filter.

 

[D189379]

I think any oil and any oil filter (other than Fram) changed twice a year should do the trick.

 

[Woodykak]

The factory recommends 5W-20. Why would I use 10w30?

I'm running a AEM cold air intake (filter), and I'll pick up the Napa Gold oil filter.

Thanks for the info.

 

[BillionPa]

why 10W30? because its hot in socal. i would go with Amsoil TSO if you can find it and do 1 year OCIs, minus a couple of months if a 6 month oil analysis shows high oil stress.

 

[farrarfan1]

The experts have spoken...

 

[Woodykak]

Found the TSO, about a mile from my home.

YIKES!, $10.50 a quart. Must be some good oil.

 

[Woodykak]

Do I need to use an Amsoil filter with that oil?

 

[bretfraz]

I'd suggest sticking with 5W-20 to maintain OE warranty compliance, then switch to whatever brand and OCI you want.

Most 5W-20 look pretty good; Motorcraft's version gets high marks here. Your local Walmart stocks it I'm sure and may stock Mopar-brand oil filters (mine does). Hard to beat one-stop shopping.

Consider 5000 mile OCI's or 6 mos, whichever comes first. If your driving is mostly heavy traffic, maybe shorten the OCI a bit if you're worried.

I don't know the oil sump capacity on those Jeeps but I'd imagine that you could do an OCI for about $15.00, give or take.

 

[dave1251]

59 cent Chevron 5W-20 and a good priced oil filter for 4-5K OCI and you will do fine. You will grow tried of the JEEP before the engine dies.

 

[AEHaas]

Read this set of articles then decide for yourself. The second link on the bottom is updated:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...ge=0#Post258506

aehaas

 

[Woodykak]

Wow, that is one heck of a detailed article. I really enjoyed the read. Just for your own edification, this is what I took from the article (highly summarized);

- Pick your oil weight according to the following formula. 10 PSI for every 1,000 RPM's. And that low pressure at idle is okay, as the engine is not stressed.

- A slightly thinner oil, is usually better than a thicker oil, as it improves flow. The better the flow equals better lubrication and cooling.

- Pick an oil that has the lowest number possible for the first number in the oil designation (I think that this is known as the Multigrade designation). This oil will have the best available viscosity at start up.

Thanks for the links, and all the info. Very impressed that "Experts" would help a newb like me out on this.

 

[Woodykak]

One more;
- The major benefit - Synthetics do not thicken as much as dino's when cool, so Synthetics are better at startup.

- Synthetics last longer as they do not have VI's added, that break down before the oil.

- Synthetics can reduce friction a bit better. This will help with wear and mileage.

 

[RedCellRacing]

FWIW- While 5w-20 is the prefered fill, 5w30 is an acceptable viscosity per Chrysler. I am in the market for a JK myself. When I get one I will most likely run AMSOIL ASM 0W-20 for this climate (Maryland). As mentioned above, TSO may be a good choice in Southern California. I run TSO in my 2004 2.4L TJ and it does very well.

As for the filter, there is little debate that the AMSOIL EaO filter is at the top of the list for filtration and flow. The spec filter for the JK (and 2.4L TJ) is the EaO57. If you want to run a higher capacity filter that meets all of the same specs except can/media size go with the EaO34 (this is what I run on the 2.4L TJ).

 

[conradcliff]

Quote:

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Read this set of articles then decide for yourself. The second link on the bottom is updated:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...ge=0#Post258506

aehaas

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Why the HECK isn't that article in a sticky at the top of the forum which states: "NEWBS READ THIS FIRST!"

 

[Panzerman]

I have to say I dont agree with Mr. AEHaas philosophy at all. More engines have gone more miles on 10w30 than any 5w20 oil. Most people with high milelage cars got 10w30 at dealership/oil change shops weather they realize it or not. Where those crazy 250 vis numbers came from I dont know. I will tell you, being a resident of Pennsylvania mountains for over 35 years, I started diesel engines with 15w40 and detroits with straight 40 wt in temperatures, way down below 0 and they made some neat noises but never siezed.They would have spun over like summertime with 10w30. Note these are diesels which thicken oil at a much faster rate.This is outside. We had more trouble with fuel gelling than oil. For any one out there that doubts me, I would suggest you take you favorite 5w20 and your favorite 10w30, put equal amounts in sample bottles and put them in the freezer, you will find the difference to be much smaller than Mr. AEHass describes. And even a smaller difference in Synthetics same vis v.s Conventional. Maybe thinner is better supplying blood to the body but not so much in engines. I will not get into that the thinner oil have a tougher time overcoming dirt suspensions or that the every vehicle touting the million mile mark made it on a heavier oil not lighter.