Bad News About Pennzoil Long-Life!!!!

Jelly · Jun 17, 2004

Read this and tell me what you think is missing:

http://pzlqs.com/Tech/Bulletin//DomesticMarketing/ProductApplications/pdf/p70.pdf

sbc350gearhead · Jun 17, 2004

Bye Bye moly. (sniff, sniff)

wwillson · Jun 17, 2004

Jelly,

Spill the beans....

Pablo · Jun 17, 2004

THAT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michael SR · Jun 17, 2004

i just put this oil in my jetta about 1-2 months ago. i remember thinking it was very clear, only a touch of color, so maybe it was this new stuff. i'm at 3500 of 5000 miles, so i should have a UOA on it within 1-2 months.

-michael

Steve S · Jun 17, 2004

Has the zinc been increased? Could it be that shell is doing their cost cutting that they do so well?

rugerman1 · Jun 17, 2004

Looks like Rotella in a yella' bottle

15w-40 Rotella T Shell API SL/CI-4 VOA

Steve S · Jun 17, 2004

rugerman1,You are ahead of me as usual,I was going to edit cause I just compared the specs . It is a great oil even with the change in formulation..

[ June 17, 2004, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: Steve S ]

rugerman1 · Jun 17, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by Steve S:
rugerman1,You are ahead of me as usual,I was going to edit cause I just compared the specs . It is a great oil even with the change in formulation..

Pablo · Jun 17, 2004

There goes my experiment....and plans.

BUT I did buy 8 qts many months ago.

The plan is to run a 50/50 mix with Amsoil 15W-40 (remember that one).

The ironic thing is, just this AM I got the Amsoil and now waiting for the sample kit and will change the oil this weekend or so...

I know where they sell the Pennz LL 15W-40 around here...is there a date code to look for??????

steiner43511 · Jun 17, 2004

so what do you guys think of this oil now? i was under the inpression that moly is a good thing. i was planning on switching from schaeffers #7000 but maybe am not going to. is there any other dino oils out there that have high moly? schaeffers has the moly i like but it can get a little more costly than dino.

MikeR · Jun 17, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by sbc350gearhead:
Bye Bye moly. (sniff, sniff)

Boron too. I'm assuming mag remains at 0.

TBN is high, but the add pack is starting to look a little Valvoliney...

MR

sprintman · Jun 17, 2004

Is that Feb 2004 or 2005??

c_rossman · Jun 17, 2004

2004 I believe, I have just used some long life, The date code on the bottom is 02/14/03, I am thinking this is the old stock.

Oldswagon · Jun 17, 2004

This is a disappointing change. It was the strong additive package that always attracted me to Pennzoil Long Life. I was still not sure if I was going to use Delvac 1300 or Pennzoil Long Life (no Delo in this area) in my old Torino, but I guess this seals it. I will be using Delvac 1300.

I am currently using LL 15W40 in another car (currently undergoing a Auto-RX treatment). I was going to switch to LL 10W30 for the rinse phase, since I think the 15W40 is a bit thick for this car. I wonder if the 10W30 is going to recieve these changes? If these changes are brought about to LL 10W30, I don't know if I can find another 10W30 HDEO in this area. But I supposed even this "watered down" LL is better than a PCEO.

ToyotaNSaturn · Jun 17, 2004

Jelly, is this the CI-4/SL formula? I found some SJ-rated (CH-4/CI-4/SJ...no SL rating) LL 15w-40 today and didn't buy it 'cuz I thought it would be too old. Maybe the older product is what I'm looking for???

Bror Jace · Jun 17, 2004

I agree. "Sucks" is the word.

I guess there's no reason for me to favor Pennzoil Long Life over Chevron Delo400 anymore ... especially since I own a little Chevron Texaco stock.

For a while, it looks like everyone was catching up with Schaeffer, but I'll be sticking with #700 for all my heavy duty applications.

--- Bror Jace

Pablo · Jun 17, 2004

My qts read:

PRTP0714031545013713

AND

API SERVICE CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF/SJ, SL

Any idea what date? Got Moly or Not?

Last_Z · Jun 17, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by Jelly:
Read this and tell me what you think is missing:

http://pzlqs.com/Tech/Bulletin//DomesticMarketing/ProductApplications/pdf/p70.pdf

What's the base oil in this product? I was going to try it after my M1 15W-50 experiment. **** you pennzoil!

Schaeffer's looks very VERY strong in the additive package department. I'd like to put some in my 02 Z28.

Pablo · Jun 17, 2004

I think actually the whole anti-moly diesel thing drove this? You remember that right?

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