B50 Tranny bypass??

[Shup1]

In looking at all of the setups that everyone has...I am trying to reduce the amount of filters and extra stuff....K.I.S.S.

Can I use the B50 setup? I have some Frantz transmission adapters and will add on the return side of the radiator


Work or not??

 

[SWHeat]

With the Frantz adapter...sure it would work. All the adapter does is put the filter in parallel.

 

[handyman]

I’m not sure I like the Frantz adaptor. It looks like it restricts the flow and also puts the bypass filter in parallel.

Why not just put the bypass in parallel? No restriction in flow! That fits in with K.I.S.S

 

[Shup1]

I agreee with putting across both lines but to reduce the fittings ect I was looking for a inexpensive / idiot proof setup. I actually thought of drilling out the adaptor and adding one the restrictor swivels (listed in another thread here) with a .031 oriface.
The other option is to 'T' off the two lines and use npt to flare fittings then add same fittings and install bypass....To many options and no definate clear choice!

Thanks for the input

 

[Gary Allan]

The best deal for a "in line parallel" setup is a preloaded sprung check valve that uses a ball check. Then you can just order it with a 5psi breaking pressure. Then regardless of flow rate or whatever, the bypass filter will see 5psid across it.

I haven't closely looked at the Frantz biasing block ..so I don't know if it's just a fixed metering block or if it has any internal relief springs in there or not.

Then again, all you really need is to provide any differential across the metering block. That is, without any "mechanism" you should merely need to provide the smallest of chokes.

If you're going to use a restrictor orifice in the main flow line, I don't think .031 is the number you want. If you've got 5/16 I.D. lines ..you're at .3125. The line pressure should elevate behind any orifice ..so I don't think anything that radical would be recommended. That's if I'm reading what you intend on doing correctly. .200 maybe

 

[Shup1]

The Frantz block is a fixed metering block, it pushes some up and some thru to get to filter unit, the only issue as listed beloe is what amount of fluid with actually hit filter...looks like to much by the drawing??? That is why I thought I could hog out the hole and place a restrictor the inlet to OB1305 head???

I have next week off, I guess I have my Christmas project!

 

[Gary Allan]

Too much to the filter? Nah, the filter itself will prevent too much going through it ...if I'm reading correctly (always suspect).

 

[Shup1]

Well I went to the local hardware shop today (which I found out is closing in three months, not due to Lowes and Home Depot moving in, cause they have a selection no one else will carry and get thier price..it was due to rent being raised to $5k a month!) anyways that is another story...greedy b**tards!

I did find all of the flare parts in brass and ordered some from Summitt today so next week I will pick up the head and install...Guess my question would be..at what frequency should I change?? SSince I use the same filter for my oil bypass shgould I just do it at the same time since I am under there??

Pics to follow late next week!

 

[Gary Allan]

Your transmission fluid should be a bit cleaner ..at least after a couple of rolls on the same sump. I guess it depends on how much shifting it does as to what new material is introduced into the fluid.

Just about any parts that one could ask for are available from http://www.discounthydraulichose.com/

You'll be spending about $30 by the time you're done. They have a $20 minimum order size. McMaster isn't bad. No minimum ..somewhat higher prices ..super fast shipping. I can order on a Thursday night and receive it Friday from NJ.

 

[Shup1]

Thanks... I stick with Brake lines and 'an' fittings...like to drink when I work, need that extra idot proofness....

I guess I wil drop when I oil change and look at the filters, Can I get trasnsmission analysis done the same as oil?? Meaning TBN ect for extended drains (especially if I am using a ,5micron bypass filter??

 

[Gary Allan]

Sure, oil is oil. There's not much benefit to a TBN test. No combustion moisture to deal with. Particle count would be interesting, although some don't like the "modeled" method that some labs use with opaque fluids. ATF should be eligible for an optical scan ..so that may be something to think about when choosing a lab.

 

[Shup1]

Well... I investigated the hook ups on transmission lines...Yuuuck!

They are huge and have no direct connection to the radiator, they have a separate cooling radiator with compression style fittings in different locations....As much as I want to use the B50 there may not be a 'easy' solution....I may need to go ahead and use the Dieselsite inline system..

Any suggestions??

BTW truck is 2006 Dodge 2500 5.9 Diesel

 

[Gary Allan]

Ah ...1/2" rubber lines that curve "up" to the auxiliary cooler that's sandwiched between the rad and the ..hmmm..ac condenser or intercooler ???. My neighbor has one.

Cut into the lines ...install some barbed Tee's

 

[Shup1]

Gary...thought of that but since the vehicle is still under warranty I am afraid to do that...I was hoping to have threaded adaptors so I can remove if there is an issue.
I have the setup from Dieselsite already, I was skeptical about using since it is an inline (after all the feedback) but with the bypass in the head it may be the most logical product.

Shup

 

[deepsquat]

yes you can ..might be interesting ..a before and an after bypass..

 

[Shup1]

Will resurrect this thread when my transmission change is due....

Thanks to all for the feedback