Average house price vs average hourly wage

Median - half are lower in price and half higher.
Last 5 years -
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Last 10 years...
Low rates high prices (plus covid) Prices peaked and slightly fell once interest rates went up.
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Average pay, average house? Why not use median?
Exactly. In general my observation is that average is used and it paints a much different picture than median. Not sure if it’s “marketing” or unintentional, just commonplace
 
My concern was the skewing that can happen with using average--the average 401k is bad, but the median is worse. Link.

I recall in 2016 that there was a report that came out about median house price to median income--in 1950, the ratio was 2x. But in 2015 it was 5.1x. And climbing. Can't find that report but did find this. Link.
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Of course, even this is misleading, as we know this is wildly dependent on location--but going back to your point, it tends to "average" out as higher cost of living areas have higher income, and vice versa.
Yeah, wildly depends on location I agree.
Also comparing to many decades back I think doesnt tell a story. Remember, home buyers now are used to luxuries, homes were bare bones in the 1950s

1990 Median price was 100k Median income 30k
Today's homes with many more luxuries Median price 415k (depending on source) However, like you say, location matters.
Todays median income in 2023 $81,000

Then there is the other confusing factor, Median HOUSEHOLD income. Many decades back a lot of homes were one income homes. Now couples work, we tend to think both couple have to work to buy a home but the homes have more luxuries then ever. Meaning the couples spend more. The free market is always what the public will and can afford to spend. We we now have two income families buying larger homes, larger than the old standard of around 1400 sq ft, multiple bath rooms etc.

Example, Today Nassau County NY median Household income is $137,000 Good luck finding a good condition home for $550,000
Coastal area of Horry County SC (myrtle beach area) is less than half that at $60,000 You can find a new home for $250,000

This is a cool map, hold a pointer over any area for the stats. (not sure how it will work on a cell phone.
https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/interactive/median-household-income.html

Not disagreeing with your post. I love stats, numbers and analyzing stuff but now I have to get dressed and cut the lawn *LOL*
Yeah, I cut my own, why? I turn it into an exercise session and get paid for it at the same time.
 
Most people cannot buy one 1M right out of college for sure. But most people can buy it after some asset appreciation from elsewhere (stock appreciation, their previous home appreciation, etc). Those expensive condos are definitely in area with expensive SFH as well.

Nobody says starter home has to be the perfect home and nobody says new home has to be starter home. Nothing wrong with an older home being starter home too.
Comics thing is they get a brokerage and crypto account along with a smaller car loan focusing on all the wrong things.
 
The lens I use is the “who’s going to be able to buy my house when I need to sell” lens.
It depends on where your house falls in the market. It should be no problem selling if your house is priced in the average compared to the area. Upper buyers will come down in hard times and lower buyers will come up during good times. The problems happen when your house is priced on the upper end of homes in the area.
 
It depends on where your house falls in the market. It should be no problem selling if your house is priced in the average compared to the area. Upper buyers will come down in hard times and lower buyers will come up during good times. The problems happen when your house is priced on the upper end of homes in the area.
Or sales are slumped.

But agreed being on the high end isn’t generally ideal.

I used to think eBay was highly efficient and near perfect as a market 😂

Today it couldn’t be any further from that
 
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