ATF drain bolt size, 04 Ion

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I'm looking to drain and refill my girlfriends Ion. It's a 04 with the Aisin 5 speed auto. The largest socket I have is a 21mm for my wheel bolts. The drain bolt looks to be 22mm or 23mm. I don't want to buy one, and get home and it doesn't fit. If any of you know, that would be great.

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WTH is the reason the drain plug is that big?!?! Do they put a rat in every transmission at the factory that you must retrieve or what?!? That thing is freaking huge!
 
Originally Posted By: pickled
WTH is the reason the drain plug is that big?!?! Do they put a rat in every transmission at the factory that you must retrieve or what?!? That thing is freaking huge!


It's probably to dissuade those who want to do it themselves in the first place.
 
Chris Meutsch, No offense but have you consider how dumb that coment sounds! Who would use a standard hex bolt to keep DIY's from attempting it??? If they wanted to do that they would do like GM and Ford do and use all kinds of torq.bits and protected torq. bits! They would use odd ball allen wrench's or star bitsor make the thing completly round and put too pin holes for a spanner wrench. Have you ever looked at the odd ball heads on the fastners for Bathroom stalls in public rest rooms? That is what you do when you do not want people dinking with the fastners. You can buy that bit for your collection from Granger but the averqage punk teenager is not going to spend the money for a bit just to mess with the stalls in the restroom.

If GM had designed that it would not have drain plug you would have to drop the pan to get any oil out and make a huge mess in the process or you would need a special tool that the average person does not own. Most automotive tool sets come with 5.5-32MM socket and wrench and SAE 3/32-1 inch socket and wrench usualy a combination of deep,thin wall and standard and a combination of 6 point and up. You usualy get some allen keys and torq bits as well. Spend the money on good tools and you will have them for ever and will be able to pass some on to your children! The money you save working on your vechile or the girlfriends vechile should be set aside for more tools!!!LOL If you pockets are not deep buy as many as you can from Sear's online and pick-up in store. They tend to have more sales online then in store but you can pick-up in store to save on shipping. Flea Markets and Yard sales are great place to pick-up Craftsman tools as well cheap! While I do not like most other brand of tools besides Matco.SnapOn and Craftsman from time to time Low's has some killer deals on their Cobalt line which while a bit clunky seem to be ok. The first time you save your girlfriend $500-$1500 dollars on a repair she will not have any problem paying for the tools!! It is funny because all of my Toyota's ahve always been easuily repaired with my first Craftsman Mechanic's prtable 200 piece kit. My wifes American car's that she has owned over the year's have all required all kinds of specialty tools. So I have all kinds of tools that I would have never owned if not for the wife. I sold all my tools for the most part when I went off to college. The good thing is that since Ihave realitives that own almost all American vechiles those tools have seen plenty of use!
 
Probably a 24mm.

Don't yank the wrong bolt for the fill plug. Supposedly on this transmission it's easy to mistaken another bolt as the fill plug, and this bolt will cause the transmission's internal parts to "fall out" if you loosen the bolt.
 

My garage looks like a Craftsman showroom. I had my tools since High School. I been adding to my collection over the years, because of times like this. It looks like i will be owning a 22mm-24mm socket soon.
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I lied, I do have a 32mm socket to remove the filter housing on the Ecotec engines. I had that left over from my Saab.
 
When I went off to college I sold around $6000 worth of tools. I kept three small tool box's packed with tools at my Dad's insistence. I said thing like "Dad in 4 year's I will just pay some poor smuch to wrench on my car." LOL!!! I seriously thought I would never touch a wrench a again. Lucky for me my Dad was far wiser then I was!
 
Well guys, I bought a 24mm 6 point deep socket at CSK. It fits, thanks for the info. I was glad when the bolt loosen easy with my breaker bar.
 
Originally Posted By: JohnBrowning
Chris Meutsch, No offense but have you consider how dumb that coment sounds! Who would use a standard hex bolt to keep DIY's from attempting it??? If they wanted to do that they would do like GM and Ford do and use all kinds of torq.bits and protected torq. bits! They would use odd ball allen wrench's or star bitsor make the thing completly round and put too pin holes for a spanner wrench. Have you ever looked at the odd ball heads on the fastners for Bathroom stalls in public rest rooms? That is what you do when you do not want people dinking with the fastners. You can buy that bit for your collection from Granger but the averqage punk teenager is not going to spend the money for a bit just to mess with the stalls in the restroom.

If GM had designed that it would not have drain plug you would have to drop the pan to get any oil out and make a huge mess in the process or you would need a special tool that the average person does not own. Most automotive tool sets come with 5.5-32MM socket and wrench and SAE 3/32-1 inch socket and wrench usualy a combination of deep,thin wall and standard and a combination of 6 point and up. You usualy get some allen keys and torq bits as well. Spend the money on good tools and you will have them for ever and will be able to pass some on to your children! The money you save working on your vechile or the girlfriends vechile should be set aside for more tools!!!LOL If you pockets are not deep buy as many as you can from Sear's online and pick-up in store. They tend to have more sales online then in store but you can pick-up in store to save on shipping. Flea Markets and Yard sales are great place to pick-up Craftsman tools as well cheap! While I do not like most other brand of tools besides Matco.SnapOn and Craftsman from time to time Low's has some killer deals on their Cobalt line which while a bit clunky seem to be ok. The first time you save your girlfriend $500-$1500 dollars on a repair she will not have any problem paying for the tools!! It is funny because all of my Toyota's ahve always been easuily repaired with my first Craftsman Mechanic's prtable 200 piece kit. My wifes American car's that she has owned over the year's have all required all kinds of specialty tools. So I have all kinds of tools that I would have never owned if not for the wife. I sold all my tools for the most part when I went off to college. The good thing is that since Ihave realitives that own almost all American vechiles those tools have seen plenty of use!


I only own Craftsman tools. Wrenches, drills, saws, etc.
Your "toolsets" with a 24mm socket/wrench are not standard for normal people to own. They are for those, like you and apparently not myself, who actually want to own them.

Thanks for the kind words.
 
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