Asian instant soup that isn’t horrendously artificial?

Maybe not in the Cup Noodles variety that only needs hot water without cooking. To get that requires that it be flash fried in some sort of tropical oil.

Nissin has some super premium noodles. I bought them at Grocery Outlet one time. They weren't flash fried and were actully more like cooking dry noodles. Looked it up and it's called Nissin Raoh.

I think I've seen Taiwanese noodles at Trader Joe's once. I think they were called "Squiggly Knife Cut".
 
I love soups. I love pho, and enjoy ramen type soups. Occasionally I want a quick and easy one on the fly. So I go to my local Asian grocery store. They have a million kinds….

Cripes, can these things be any worse for you? I love the fresh food section of my favorite local Asian grocery. But these things???!?

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Every flavor is artificial. I wasn’t expecting the most wholesome products in the world, but they can’t even use real chicken broth like those dry Lipton soup packets?

So I’m figuring that there is quite a language difference, and like anything, there are brand differences and quality differences. So I’m hoping for a recommendation. Is there a product like this that isn’t horrendously artificial down to the flavors???
Safeway carries a microwave soup with all the fixings that is waaaay healthier than those dried abominations. It's "Annie Chun" brand. . They are a soft noodle not fried actually taste good and have reasonable calorie and list real ingredients.
Annie Chun microwave soup
They are typically on the bottom shelf in the Asian isle. Apparently whole foods, aldis carries them as well.
 
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Or, better than all the stuff that's been posted, including Shin Black above, go to an Asian or Japanese market and pick up some Udon noodles. They come frozen or dried. Throw 'em in a pot of hot water (or better yet, broth) and add some spices, diced green onions, herbs, maybe a protein, and Bob's your uncle.

And, with that suggestion, I still use dried ramen frequently because sometimes absolute convenience triumphs.

 
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Or, better than all the stuff that's been posted, including Shin Black above, go to an Asian or Japanese market and pick up some Udon noodles. They come frozen or dried. Throw 'em in a pot of hot water (or better yet, broth) and add some spices, diced green onions, herbs, maybe a protein, and Bob's your uncle.

And, with that suggestion, I still use dried ramen frequently because sometimes absolute convenience triumphs.


What is amazing is how much of these ramen noodles people eat in the South eastern or Far Eastern countries. The 7-Eleven help you cook these in the store and eat there, or they have unmanned, honor system restaurants giving your all the ingredients and tools to cook and eat the noodles there.
 
https://shop.momofuku.com/

They're not inexpensive (~$3/pack) but they're the best instant noodles I've ever had. Noodles are air dried, not fried, so the amount of total fat and especially saturated fat is much lower. Tons of sodium still (par for the course with noodles).

Ingredient list for my favorite (Sweet & Spicy Noodles):
Wheat Flour, Water, Sugar, Salt, Sesame Oil, Invert Sugar, Chili, Garlic, Defatted Soybeans, Wheat, Canola Oil, Chili Powder, Soybeans, Glutinous Rice, Yeast Extract, Rice, Caramel Color, Brewing Sake, Sticky Rice Vinegar, Shaoxing Wine (Rice, Wheat), Malic Acid, Glucono Delta-lactone, Barley.

I bought some of those at Target once, although they were pretty pricey. Might be my location, but I'm seeing $11.59 for a 5-pack.

https://www.target.com/s/momofuku+noodles

I think the supplier is in Taiwan.

I'm seeing a special for them at a local market that has a lot of overstocks and near (or even past) printed sell by dates. They seem to have the 5-packs of spicy soy and tingly chili wavy for $4.59. Maybe more, but I can only see them on Instacart which limits searches without logging in.
 
https://shop.momofuku.com/

They're not inexpensive (~$3/pack) but they're the best instant noodles I've ever had. Noodles are air dried, not fried, so the amount of total fat and especially saturated fat is much lower. Tons of sodium still (par for the course with noodles).
A-Sha foods make Momofuku's noodles. Don't know why I didn't mention them in my earlier post ... I've enjoyed them myself.

https://ashadrynoodle.com/?
 
The only packaged Soup I have ever found that wasn't terrible for you is some of the House brands at trader Joe's, and Annie's. You pay for them.

As for Ramen, in a pinch - cheapo ramen noodles (Nongshim are best) - toss the flavor packet. Boil packaged chicken broth and cook the noodles in it. When done, drop in some chopped green onion, grated carrot, radish, cucumber - or whichever of those you have. Tastes pretty good. Honestly doesn't take long - 10 minutes?
 
My Mom found these Tom Yum (not to be confused with BITOG member, Tom Young) noodles and I was very impressed. Just add some extra vegetables and the flavor approaches that of a soup found in a restaurant.

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When I was in college, I would take ramen to school, for a snack. I found the cheap stuff was better than Campbells. Would eat it straight out of the package--bit crunchy, but there wasn't a microwave, and it was the definition of cheap and quick. After college I would occasionally eat some, nuke the noodles sans the seasoning. I'd sprinkle some on after draining off the water, as a bit of seasoning--but throwing away the vast majority.

Reminiscing aside, I wonder if buying the cheap stuff, not using the seasoning packet, and adding what have you to spice it up might do the trick.
 
It is reasonable to assume after a person eats gumbo from Southern Louisiana, obsession follows.

The first time I had gumbo from Louisiana --- was a life changing experience.
I am originally from Louisiana, before I went to BBQ for events, I made gumbo and etouffee and red beans and rice for gatherings/events. Gumbo is the only way I can get the kids to eat bell peppers, celery, and onion, and they would eat it by the gallon.

It's also incredibly easy to make, so that's a win (make the roux in an oven)

if you love gumbo - here are some cliffs notes. I measure nothing, so season to taste. this is about a gallon.

In a cast iron skillet combine 3/4 cup of oil with 1 cup of flour. Bake at 350-375 until it looks a bit darker than milk chocolate but not as dark as dark chocolate. It takes roughly an hour, I stir it 2-3 times.

Figure out your proteins. Chicken and sausage are simple and inexpensive. Shrimp can go in any iteration. If you want a more seafoody gumbo, stop the roux at milk chocolate or even a bit before.

Celery onion and bell pepper. Rough chop is fine. You can go 2 parts onion and bell pepper to 1 part celery. I like 2 large onions, 4-5 bell peppers, 3-4 stalks of celery. Use the celery tops if possible.

Chicken stock. I use better than bullion. Best way is to cook a whole chicken and when it's done, pull it out, debone, and simmer the bones for a couple of hours, then strain.

Spices - black pepper, white pepper, cayenne pepper, and red pepper flakes. I use dehydrated minced garlic, fresh is also delicious. It's all to taste. Try to find some file powder. Kroger and their affiliates carry it around here. THIS DOES NOT GO IN UNTIL THE GUMBO IS DONE - most add it straight to the bowl, I add when it's still hot but not boiling. I like it to cook in just a bit. If you boil it, it gets kinda funky. It's a thickener by trade, but I see it more as a flavor.

Add veggies to stock. Boil while the roux is baking. Add spices to stock until you like it. Be liberal. When you add the roux, it's going to dilute quite a bit.

When the roux is done, set it to cool a bit. Not all the way cold, but until you know what to expect I suggest not adding 350-375 degree oil to liquid. I do, but I know what to expect.

Add roux, mix in well. It will clump up and look like it's not right. It's ok - it will incorporate when you cook it some more.

Bring back to simmer or slow boil. Let it cook maybe 15-20 minutes. Add more seasoning. If I'm using sausage, I like it to cook along with the roux when I add it to the stock, kind of render it a bit.

Add your chicken back to the pot. If you boiled the chicken you can add it very late. If you are using something like boneless breast or thighs and it's not already cooked, add it to stock same time as roux.

If using seafood such as shrimp or oysters or crawfish or whatever, add it right before you turn the heat off. There is enough residual heat in here to cook a lb or so of seafood.

That's about as simple as it gets. The vegetable chopping is the most tedious part. I can bang out a batch in 90 minutes or I can cook it for 4 hours until the veggies basically dissolve. That was how I first got the kids to eat it.


Ok, hijack over. Back to ramen. I get a craving for a pack of ramen maybe twice a year. I add only half of the salt pack (if it has a pack) - I saw some with wontons in the mix a few weeks ago. I jumped on 2 bowls of it and had one that night. I think it had 3 little sad vaguely wonton shaped noodles kinda laying on top. Sad sad little things. That was my ramen fix for the foreseeable future. I can't tell the difference taste wise between the less than a buck containers at the Mart and the $3.50 containers from the Asian section at Publix or the Kroger affiliate. All I get is salt. My daughter buys the $2 packs of Shin and swears by them. I can't tell the difference (other than heat)
 
I know…. That one had that and a cancer warning, which is why I photographed it.


As I said, I’m not expecting the pinnacle of wholesomeness… just trying to find if there is a variant of this type of product that IS better.
Everything has a cancer warning these days for class action lawsuit liability reason. I even see that in women's hospital where babies are delivered once...

Instant Ramen!!!! If it doesn't have 40%+ daily value in sodium I'm not eating it, and the 77g carb? Come on it is noodle, it is carb. When was the last time you complain about a loaf of bread being near 100% carb? Most people's problems with MSG that I know of are actually 1) sodium overdose and not just msg, if you don't drink the soup you are probably ok. 2) it leaves a tingly aftertaste in your mouth compare to glutamine from fresh ingredient.

I actually saw a sign once in a ramen shop that said: "we absolutely use MSG and we are proud of it".
 
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Everything has a cancer warning these days for class action lawsuit liability reason. I even see that in women's hospital where babies are delivered once...

Instant Ramen!!!! If it doesn't have 40%+ daily value in sodium I'm not eating it, and the 77g carb? Come on it is noodle, it is carb. When was the last time you complain about a loaf of bread being near 100% carb? Most people's problems with MSG that I know of are actually 1) sodium overdose and not just msg, if you don't drink the soup you are probably ok. 2) it leaves a tingly aftertaste in your mouth compare to glutamine from fresh ingredient.

I actually saw a sign once in a ramen shop that said: "we absolutely use MSG and we are proud of it".
I don’t believe I said anything about the carbs. Yes they’re high, and yes, of course they’re going to be.

The point was the artificial nature of the soups. Every one was artificially flavored. And then to put a bow on it, had a cancer warning.

I get it that in CA, everything is known to the State of California to cause cancer. Heck, they should have that on babies’ birth certificates, because living is known to the State of California to cause cancer. No food that I regularly procure or consume has those labels, regardless of reason to have them.

It’s the artificial nature of the soups that’s the issue. I don’t care as much about salt, MSG, carbs, etc. chances are if I’m snacking on one, I just swam hard for 90 minutes and can probably recover with anything.
 
Everything has a cancer warning these days for class action lawsuit liability reason. I even see that in women's hospital where babies are delivered once...

Instant Ramen!!!! If it doesn't have 40%+ daily value in sodium I'm not eating it, and the 77g carb? Come on it is noodle, it is carb. When was the last time you complain about a loaf of bread being near 100% carb? Most people's problems with MSG that I know of are actually 1) sodium overdose and not just msg, if you don't drink the soup you are probably ok. 2) it leaves a tingly aftertaste in your mouth compare to glutamine from fresh ingredient.

I actually saw a sign once in a ramen shop that said: "we absolutely use MSG and we are proud of it".
I use MSG in home cooking - it has less sodium than salt, actually.
 
I don’t believe I said anything about the carbs. Yes they’re high, and yes, of course they’re going to be.

The point was the artificial nature of the soups. Every one was artificially flavored. And then to put a bow on it, had a cancer warning.

I get it that in CA, everything is known to the State of California to cause cancer. Heck, they should have that on babies’ birth certificates, because living is known to the State of California to cause cancer. No food that I regularly procure or consume has those labels, regardless of reason to have them.

It’s the artificial nature of the soups that’s the issue. I don’t care as much about salt, MSG, carbs, etc. chances are if I’m snacking on one, I just swam hard for 90 minutes and can probably recover with anything.
Not that you said it, just trying not to reply to everyone separately. Sorry I'll be more careful on how to respond in the future.

Artificial ingredient is probably a given consider the cost is less than $4. A real deal made with similar taste with real ingredients will probably cost $12-15, and nobody would buy it. Still though. I have made peace with it long ago and as long as I don't drink the soup, and in the US they already replaced the trans fat with palm oil, I'm ok. To me the biggest problem was trans fat and is now palm oil. I eat carb one way or another, and I don't drink the soup, and is fine with MSG, so the only big problem to me is actually the fat they use to fry the noodle before drying it.
 
Not that you said it, just trying not to reply to everyone separately. Sorry I'll be more careful on how to respond in the future.

Artificial ingredient is probably a given consider the cost is less than $4. A real deal made with similar taste with real ingredients will probably cost $12-15, and nobody would buy it. Still though. I have made peace with it long ago and as long as I don't drink the soup, and in the US they already replaced the trans fat with palm oil, I'm ok. To me the biggest problem was trans fat and is now palm oil. I eat carb one way or another, and I don't drink the soup, and is fine with MSG, so the only big problem to me is actually the fat they use to fry the noodle before drying it.
Well that’s why I was hoping there was an intermediate option, even if fresh or frozen…sort of like how you can go buy half decent chicken or bone broth, shelf stable… something like that. Or at least yeah, the noodles are fried and have unhealthy stuff, but the packs are actually dehydrated broths and spices versus artificial flavors.

I think I’ve seen some that are more like pho. I’m more interested in having soup than the type. Those rice noodles are perhaps better. I think my wife has gotten some better ones separately in the past….
 
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