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Originally posted by Pablo:
Gary I hope you are being sarcastic. I always thought of you as a humble fellow. You are frigging gloating about this? Now THAT is funny!
I am not predicting we will strike Iran, but if they have a bomb, in say the next 3-5 years, would they hesitate to use it? That isn't a show, Gary.
Sorry, Pabs, I missed this. Sure, Pablo, this is serious. You don't get attention without making serious threats.
In my opinion, this whole thing ..Iran ..NK ..although they are indepenant ...are mostly media shows for our benefit. Now I'm not saying that it's "rigged" ..just that all the hype is to "condition" us for the results (usually called concessions).
We put export restrictions to nations that we don't like. This severely inhibits them for common and productive endeavors. Without some form of leverage ..there's absolutely no reason to give a wild hoot if they rot. Let the stinking 'tards rot and stiffle themselves. So to get attention and the things that they need ..they need to develope a strategy that threatens our interests. Sorta "Hey! Big guy!! You're messing wid me ..and maybe I can't kick your butt ..but I'm make you wish you hadn't messed wid me. They broadcast it all over the place ...blow their horn ..etc..etc. Now the POTENTIAL for the threat is REAL...otherwise ..we'd just blow them off. The remedy, however, never EVER included the notion of going to war over it.
You don't just publically state that you're desiring to destroy the state of Israel if you truly intend to do it. You don't threaten, publically, to use miltary force to destroy weapons capability of Iran.
Both those actions of public proclamation, for both sides, would be entirely and utterly STUPID. You would diplomatically discuss such things quietly. You would plan your reactions ..quietly ..not announce them to the world to, if they're the crazy camel jocks that many of you believe them to be, allow them to "get one in before the great white infidel destroys us"
That's why it's a show. The "needs" of Iran and the "allowances" of the West were semi hammered out long ago. The view that we get ..the crazy publicity stories ..the posturing ..the threats...are all just window dressing to allow us to finance the deal without getting upset.
I said this a long time ago. The "fix" was in. Do you really think that our government would give us a real time play by play update on this stuff? Knowing that, when you see a speech last week discussing military action ..and then a quick "backing off" and "envoy dispatched carrying US offer for blablabla" ..that it, in any way shape or form, actually resembled the "crisis" as it was depicted?????
Not at all likely.
In the "window dressing" motif ...Iran's pres gets to say "See! The great white infidel yields to our demands!!!" ..and his ignorant and needy masses have a hero. WE get to see our unwavering and stollard principles enforce thorough STRENGTH, "Yeah ..those crazy jocks bowed to the might of the USA!!!".
Meanwhile ..now that both of our populations are reassured that all is well and our respective leaders have the situation well in hand ...the deal is already being finalized ...restrictions are lifted ...shippments are authorized ..etc..etc..etc.
It's the greatest threat that never was.
You'll see this again. Just do yourself a favor and take a look at it from this POV. You should be able to predict the outcome ..every time.
It's all very clear to me. It a chess game. You don't have to attack ..just manuver properly so your opponent must yield some position that allows you to advance. I see this time and time again. We're the most powerful and well positioned power. Hence anyone who is advancing is a "threat" to our interests ..which includes just about anything worht having.
Doesn't anyone kinda see this as too neatly packaged and delivered to be "genuine"
