going to kinda recap a series of events... to get the ball rolling (many of you are familiar with these events from my other posts)...
1. purchase 1995 isuzu rodeo with 144,000 miles in summer of 2004.
*rodeo begins ticking shortly thereafter.
*burns about 1qt/1000miles at time of purchase.
*I read up, and discover, that these are common issues with isuzus, but that they are not immediatally destructive to the engine.
2. I begin a pursuit, of trying different oils, and addatives, to eliminate my ticking and consumption.
3. I find that "engine-restore" seems to act like a miracle. eliminating the ticking, and slightly reducing consumption (not by much, down to about 0.8qt/1000mi)
4. The ticking begins to return after a few oil changes using "restore."... I begin to loose faith, and stop using it...
5. In april of 2005, I buy a 2001 suzuki swift (second vehicle), with only 53,000 miles.
6. Back in high gear to find something to help the isuzu ticking issue again.. I discover bitog, and an isuzu forum. I try seafoam on the recomendation of other isuzu users. (no luck with seafoam)
7. At this point, I feel reasured in my previous decision to have stopped using the retore in the isuzu, and leary about having used it at all. The ticking continued, sometimes loud, sometimes quiet, consumption went back up to 1qt/1000 miles.
8. In my learning about oil and other car related information through bitog, I have a peek into the suzuki, and then pull the valve cover. sludge (yay)... a young engine, that's not sludge prone, full of it. (I've posted picts and links to picts around on here)
9. By this point I have learned about products like ARX, LC, and a whole host of other oils and addatives and what they do, or don't do.., I decide to use ARX in both vehicles at some point.
10. Somewhere along the lines there, I had picked up the tidbit that isuzu recomends 0w30 weight synthetic oil for the ticking. (and later learn, the exact causes of the ticking). I become a bit of a GC nut at this point (right towards the end of the availability of "green" stuff...)... So, I had some fun collecting bottles of green GC. (had 54 bottles at one point)
11. I run an OCI on the GC, and liked it. The ticking was less intense, morning starts were smoother. consumption continued at 1qt/1000mi.
12. I decide to send a sample of the GC i ran off to DYSON/BLACKSTONE.... (drained at 3500 miles)..
13. The oil had signs of the high consumption rate, luckily, no major issues like coolant or fuel. The bizzare part, was the very high lead and copper- which, has been accociated with my use of "restore" in the past.
14. At the time of the oil analysis coming back, I was well on my way into the "clean" cycle of rx on the isuzu. The first several hundred miles were scary, (I made a post about it)... The ticking was louder than ever in the hostory of this vehicle.
15. ARX seems to "cure" the tick all of the sudden. (bringing it down to a naunce of tick, that is very reasonable, and only noticable at idle). I notice a dropoff in oil consumption towards the end of the clean cycle.
16. after about a 1650 mile "clean" phase (didn't have a chance to get it changed at exactly 1500), I drained and started the rinse phase.
17. The rinse phase, seems to startoff fairly well, but about 500 miles into it, I start to notice blue smoke out my tailpipe, on launch, and when pulling hills and running the engine hard. This is something that in the past, I had only ever seen when dumping the clutch between gears (i know, i know)
18. I check my oil at 500 miles into the rinse phase, i'm 1.2 quarts low(I top off). The smoking continues on and off. (some days I notice it more than others, for whatever reason)... consumption is really high, to say the least.
19. I'm at about 900 miles into the rinse phase, consumption continues. I'm worried. I thought that I had finally solved my consumption issues when it declined so much towards the end of the clean cycle, and now it's higher than ever.
20. In reading around on bitog, I learn, that a university has done a study, showing that slightly used oil (containing some small metal wear particles), actually causes less wear than fresh oil. (they used some kinda radioactive measurement technology)...
21. I start to wonder if "engine restore" isn't really as bad as people say it is, considering *20*... I also begin at this point, to believe, that "restore" may very well do something similar to what it says on the bottle, proof of it having "imbedded" itself into the metal in my engine, could be through the fact that it was still showing up in a UOA many oil changes after it's use.
22. I've been under the impression, by my reading about ARX, that, much of the "cleaning" takes place, in the rinse phase- possibly- polerized sludge and particles, "cling" to the fresh non-polerized oil. or something to that effect... Maybe "restore" was removed from the metal, by arx, resulting in more blowby.
23. I would also like to point out, that at 900 miles into the rinse phase... I seem to have lost some power that I felt I had gained back when I was in the "clean" phase. And the ticking is cropping back up again.
24. Maybe this engine is about toast, and I should give up on it, and just find a different SUV, or rebuild the engine in this one.
25. Maybe I should finish out the ARX, another 1100mi rinse, topping off as neccessary, then start another clean phase, and then another rinse phase(as recomended for vehicles over 100k), and see how things go when I switch back to GC after 2 cycles of arx.
26. Terry has suggested I get going on LC20 with the GC(after arxing)... He thinks it may help reduce consumption and get my insolubles under control.
27. What I want to do, is *25* followed by *26*.. and see how it goes... if consumption remains incredably high, i'll be going back to restore, saving the GC I have collected for the suzuki, and we'll see what happens.
Ok, that's where I'm at now.... If anybody has any ideas, about the consumption issues, or would like to chime in on anything else, I would greatly apreciate it.
1. purchase 1995 isuzu rodeo with 144,000 miles in summer of 2004.
*rodeo begins ticking shortly thereafter.
*burns about 1qt/1000miles at time of purchase.
*I read up, and discover, that these are common issues with isuzus, but that they are not immediatally destructive to the engine.
2. I begin a pursuit, of trying different oils, and addatives, to eliminate my ticking and consumption.
3. I find that "engine-restore" seems to act like a miracle. eliminating the ticking, and slightly reducing consumption (not by much, down to about 0.8qt/1000mi)
4. The ticking begins to return after a few oil changes using "restore."... I begin to loose faith, and stop using it...
5. In april of 2005, I buy a 2001 suzuki swift (second vehicle), with only 53,000 miles.
6. Back in high gear to find something to help the isuzu ticking issue again.. I discover bitog, and an isuzu forum. I try seafoam on the recomendation of other isuzu users. (no luck with seafoam)
7. At this point, I feel reasured in my previous decision to have stopped using the retore in the isuzu, and leary about having used it at all. The ticking continued, sometimes loud, sometimes quiet, consumption went back up to 1qt/1000 miles.
8. In my learning about oil and other car related information through bitog, I have a peek into the suzuki, and then pull the valve cover. sludge (yay)... a young engine, that's not sludge prone, full of it. (I've posted picts and links to picts around on here)
9. By this point I have learned about products like ARX, LC, and a whole host of other oils and addatives and what they do, or don't do.., I decide to use ARX in both vehicles at some point.
10. Somewhere along the lines there, I had picked up the tidbit that isuzu recomends 0w30 weight synthetic oil for the ticking. (and later learn, the exact causes of the ticking). I become a bit of a GC nut at this point (right towards the end of the availability of "green" stuff...)... So, I had some fun collecting bottles of green GC. (had 54 bottles at one point)
11. I run an OCI on the GC, and liked it. The ticking was less intense, morning starts were smoother. consumption continued at 1qt/1000mi.
12. I decide to send a sample of the GC i ran off to DYSON/BLACKSTONE.... (drained at 3500 miles)..
13. The oil had signs of the high consumption rate, luckily, no major issues like coolant or fuel. The bizzare part, was the very high lead and copper- which, has been accociated with my use of "restore" in the past.
14. At the time of the oil analysis coming back, I was well on my way into the "clean" cycle of rx on the isuzu. The first several hundred miles were scary, (I made a post about it)... The ticking was louder than ever in the hostory of this vehicle.
15. ARX seems to "cure" the tick all of the sudden. (bringing it down to a naunce of tick, that is very reasonable, and only noticable at idle). I notice a dropoff in oil consumption towards the end of the clean cycle.
16. after about a 1650 mile "clean" phase (didn't have a chance to get it changed at exactly 1500), I drained and started the rinse phase.
17. The rinse phase, seems to startoff fairly well, but about 500 miles into it, I start to notice blue smoke out my tailpipe, on launch, and when pulling hills and running the engine hard. This is something that in the past, I had only ever seen when dumping the clutch between gears (i know, i know)
18. I check my oil at 500 miles into the rinse phase, i'm 1.2 quarts low(I top off). The smoking continues on and off. (some days I notice it more than others, for whatever reason)... consumption is really high, to say the least.
19. I'm at about 900 miles into the rinse phase, consumption continues. I'm worried. I thought that I had finally solved my consumption issues when it declined so much towards the end of the clean cycle, and now it's higher than ever.
20. In reading around on bitog, I learn, that a university has done a study, showing that slightly used oil (containing some small metal wear particles), actually causes less wear than fresh oil. (they used some kinda radioactive measurement technology)...
21. I start to wonder if "engine restore" isn't really as bad as people say it is, considering *20*... I also begin at this point, to believe, that "restore" may very well do something similar to what it says on the bottle, proof of it having "imbedded" itself into the metal in my engine, could be through the fact that it was still showing up in a UOA many oil changes after it's use.
22. I've been under the impression, by my reading about ARX, that, much of the "cleaning" takes place, in the rinse phase- possibly- polerized sludge and particles, "cling" to the fresh non-polerized oil. or something to that effect... Maybe "restore" was removed from the metal, by arx, resulting in more blowby.
23. I would also like to point out, that at 900 miles into the rinse phase... I seem to have lost some power that I felt I had gained back when I was in the "clean" phase. And the ticking is cropping back up again.
24. Maybe this engine is about toast, and I should give up on it, and just find a different SUV, or rebuild the engine in this one.
25. Maybe I should finish out the ARX, another 1100mi rinse, topping off as neccessary, then start another clean phase, and then another rinse phase(as recomended for vehicles over 100k), and see how things go when I switch back to GC after 2 cycles of arx.
26. Terry has suggested I get going on LC20 with the GC(after arxing)... He thinks it may help reduce consumption and get my insolubles under control.
27. What I want to do, is *25* followed by *26*.. and see how it goes... if consumption remains incredably high, i'll be going back to restore, saving the GC I have collected for the suzuki, and we'll see what happens.
Ok, that's where I'm at now.... If anybody has any ideas, about the consumption issues, or would like to chime in on anything else, I would greatly apreciate it.
