Are you on the "autism spectrum"? And if so, what are your + and - skills?

[RDY4WAR]

I haven't been formally diagnosed, but genetic testing my ASD daughter showed a paternal genetic link. After learning that fun little fact and observing my daughter's behaviors and struggles, a lot of the confusing times of my childhood (and as an adult) starting making a lot of sense.

 

[Pablo]

I haven't been formally diagnosed, but genetic testing my ASD daughter showed a paternal genetic link. After learning that fun little fact and observing my daughter's behaviors and struggles, a lot of the confusing times of my childhood (and as an adult) starting making a lot of sense.

You and I brother

Now my grandson, on his father's side very impressive IQ's (genius level, I am not kidding). BUT light on the people skills if you follow. Our side - me - yeah too but sans the IQ part. My wife is brilliant, but has her own spectrum.

And that's just it - it's the human condition. There is a reason for all this. Back in the day, people were different and it was OK, and not labeled so much. We need to all step back and accept some of this as long as not harmful.

The wildcard are the environmental toxins, the drugs, etc and PTB telling us these things are safe.

 

[RDY4WAR]

I personally believe it's all genetics. There's a lot of genetic code we haven't figured out yet. I think more research into that will show more links. I'm open to researching medications and vaccines, and how they may impact mental health and development, but I don't believe (as of yet) they impact neurodivergence. They're wildcards, for sure, but the science doesn't point that way as we know it. I'm certainly not taking medical advice from a real estate developer and environmental lawyer. I'm going to sit down at some point and read through the recent Harvard study.

The big problem I have is autism is spoken about as some sort of disease that must be "cured." It can't be cured. I found it quite hilarious when you know who was saying he will "eradicate autism" while Elon's autistic self was stemming with a chainsaw in the oval office.

At the very least, I wish we could be seen as human beings with emotions and cognitive abilities rather than some test subjects or discarded members of society. Some of the rhetoric being spread borders dangerously close to eugenics.

 

[Pablo]

I personally believe it's all genetics. There's a lot of genetic code we haven't figured out yet. I think more research into that will show more links. I'm open to researching medications and vaccines, and how they may impact mental health and development, but I don't believe (as of yet) they impact neurodivergence. They're wildcards, for sure, but the science doesn't point that way as we know it. I'm certainly not taking medical advice from a real estate developer and environmental lawyer. I'm going to sit down at some point and read through the recent Harvard study.

The big problem I have is autism is spoken about as some sort of disease that must be "cured." It can't be cured. I found it quite hilarious when you know who was saying he will "eradicate autism" while Elon's autistic self was stemming with a chainsaw in the oval office.

At the very least, I wish we could be seen as human beings with emotions and cognitive abilities rather than some test subjects or discarded members of society.

Do you think gut bacteria play a role in?

 

[RDY4WAR]

Do you think gut bacteria play a role in?

This is something I have pondered. Something that's rarely mentioned is how autistic people tend to have odd bowel movements. The gut-brain axis is a powerful connection. I'm open to exploring this theory further, but I'm not convinced there's a link just yet.

I need a lot of concrete evidence, with consistent repeatable results and trials, to convince me of something. (regardless of what it is) I'm a big believer in the scientific method. The only thing that has met that criteria thus far, in terms of autism, is genetics. If such evidence comes to light to suggest vaccines, Tylenol, and other factors contribute to autism, then I will get onboard. I'm not believing anything on hunch though.

 

[Pablo]

This is something I have pondered. Something that's rarely mentioned is how autistic people tend to have odd bowel movements. The gut-brain axis is a powerful connection. I'm open to exploring this theory further, but I'm not convinced there's a link just yet.

I need a lot of concrete evidence, with consistent repeatable results and trials, to convince me of something. (regardless of what it is) I'm a big believer in the scientific method. The only thing that has met that criteria thus far, in terms of autism, is genetics. If such evidence comes to light to suggest vaccines, Tylenol, and other factors contribute to autism, then I will get onboard. I'm not believing anything on hunch though.

I agree.

Tylenol themselves have advised against use in pregnancy and it's been well known for years acetaminophen absolutely tears up the human liver. I know you may not like it for political reasons, but I think it's wise advice to avoid, at least during pregnancy.

So you really don't think autism and similar things are increasing? Or just the labeling/diagnosis is increasing?

 

[RDY4WAR]

I agree.

Tylenol themselves have advised against use in pregnancy and it's been well known for years acetaminophen absolutely tears up the human liver. I know you may not like it for political reasons, but I think it's wise advice to avoid, at least during pregnancy.

So you really don't think autism and similar things are increasing? Or just the labeling/diagnosis is increasing?

My reasoning isn't politically motivated. I throw jabs at it here and there, regardless of which side the politician is on (two sides of the same coin), but I don't consider this a political issue. It bothers me that it's being made into one.

Tylenol has been recommended for pregnant women by a lot of OBGYNs for many decades. ACOG and SMFM both still recommend Tylenol for pain and fever during pregnancy, at the lowest dose necessary for the least amount of time. The risk-benefit factor favors Tylenol as there's a much greater risk of birth defects, premature labor, low birth weight, and other issues if pregnancy pains are left untreated. Tylenol is the only pain-reliever that can be used during pregnancy. These organizations are heavily worried about pregnant women having complications due to Tylenol avoidance. Banning Tylenol from pregnant women could actually cause an increase in autism as studies have suggested a potential link between chronic fever during pregnancy and autism.

The studies into this, that have happened so far, have some major flaws. They tend to not take into account the reason pregnant women would need Tylenol in the first place, along some other shortcomings. To quote an article from Reuters...

https://www.reuters.com/business/he...ant-women-tylenol-is-ok-if-needed-2025-09-25/

On Monday, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention updated its website and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration sent letters to providers warning of a risk, with the caveat that no causal relationship between acetaminophen and autism had been established.

Since Monday, European Union health officials, British health agencies and the World Health Organization have rushed to correct the record. All said there is no conclusive evidence, opens new tab linking use of the painkiller during pregnancy and autism.

Srinivas's approach to counseling patients is to share some of the shortcomings and nuances about the research supporting an association between Tylenol during pregnancy and autism.

Some of the studies, she said, had "a lot of limitations" and failed to take into account the reasons a pregnant woman might need to take acetaminophen, such as fever, which has been linked with autism.

"What we know is there is really no causal link between acetaminophen and autism," Srinivas said.

No. I do not think actual autism rates are increasing. We've always been here. Our knowledge and understanding of autism has grown substantially which has made way for more autistic people to get a proper diagnosis so they can get the appropriate treatment and accommodations.

If you go back to the 1960s-70s, there was little knowledge of autism. If you were neurodivergent, you were just deemed retarded and thrown in an institution. Many didn't get labeled as such but existed among society. The guy who ate the same lunch for 40 years, collected stamps and wires, and hyper-fixated on tasks. We've seen those types in the workforce. It's always been a thing. We've advanced as a society to a point of better understanding and proper diagnosis.

I understand why we want to search for something else to blame. Our brains are wired for pattern recognition. If we can blame it on something, we feel better about it because it means we can take steps to avoid it. It's a survival mechanism that served us well in the caveman era. In the modern age, it makes us completely disregard science if it doesn't make us feel good. The idea of it being all genetics is a scary thought because it's not something that can be controlled. We don't like things we can't control. The fact of the matter is though that there are things we cannot control. The sooner we make peace with that reality, the more we can advance as a society.

 

[PF52]

So you really don't think autism and similar things are increasing? Or just the labeling/diagnosis is increasing?

I think the labeling and diagnosis is increasing. Lumping Asperger's into the spectrum along with "regular" Autism probably amounted in a big spike in cases.

I remember being in grade school, and for awhile I had to go to a special speech class, like maybe once a week or something, along with various other kids who had trouble speaking certain letters and such. In my case, I had trouble with my Rs and Ws.... But they also took me aside and made me practice speaking while maintaining eye contact which apparently I had not been doing properly. Nowadays of course a kid who doesn't make eye contact will just get slapped with the "autism" label. I'm old enough (just barely) that back in those days they probably weren't diagnosing (or even noticing) mild cases like mine and probably lots of others who are now adults.

 

[RDY4WAR]

I will say that the autism spectrum has grown a bit too big for its britches. It's a very wide spectrum that I think should be split up and labeled in sub-categories. I think it would help with individual accommodations and support.

 

[Pablo]

I just don’t think the huge increase in metals plastics organics glyphosates etc are at all good for the human race in general. We know for example glyphosates kill gut bacteria. There is a solid link between missing/bad gut bacteria ill health even mental health. Even the increased incidence of diabetes,

It’s not possible to stop all intake but I believe in minimizing pollutants in the human body

Connected to autism? Not yet but dotted line

 

[RDY4WAR]

I just don’t think the huge increase in metals plastics organics glyphosates etc are at all good for the human race in general. We know for example glyphosates kill gut bacteria. There is a solid link between missing/bad gut bacteria ill health even mental health. Even the increased incidence of diabetes,

It’s not possible to stop all intake but I believe in minimizing pollutants in the human body

Connected to autism? Not yet but dotted line

I agree with you. We do need to limit intake of such things with consideration to the risk-benefit factor.

 

[RDY4WAR]

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[ZeeOSix]

acetaminophen absolutely tears up the human liver

Only if it's way over dosed beyond the max recommended dosage - just like any drug. Maximum daily dose is 3,000 to 4,000 mg.

The recommended max dosage for pregnant women is 3,000 mg. Ibuprofen, naproxen and aspirin are not recommended for pregnant woman. Maybe they should try and link that instead.

 

[Pablo]

Only if it's way over dosed beyond the max recommended dosage - maximum daily dose is 3,000 to 4,000 mg. Just like any drug.

The recommended max dosage for pregnant women is 3,000 mg. Ibuprofen, naproxen and aspirin are not recommended for pregnant woman. Maybe they should try and link that instead.

All that junk is nasty to the human liver. Low, medium, high dose. You are free to follow the experts though.

 

[ZeeOSix]

You are free to follow the experts though.

Who else are you going to follow? Certainly not people who don't believe in research and science.

 

[Pablo]

Who else are you going to follow? Certainly not people who don't believe in research and science.

Just how wrong did they get Roundup?

I absolutely believe in a couple things. One I can't mention here.

Another is the scientific process, Baconian Process (distant relative BTW) . If you think GRAS and other type recommendations for drugs, foods, etc are strictly by the scientific method, then you are welcome to believe that. I for one, don't believe it. And I understand it's a balancing act.

My belief is to limit to zero anything that isn't real food. Yes I have and will take drugs when absolutely necessary. I am not here to say all drugs are bad. I mean even the gift of antibiotics, saved billions of lives by now, have a real dark side.

So again. I'm heading for 68 and people simply don't think I look or act 68. I'm not bragging, and I am certainly not old, or even near perfect. I just don't eat or take junk in my body. I realize I am truly blessed to be in this position because yes it costs more $ for pure foods.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Just how wrong did they get Roundup?

I absolutely believe in a couple things. One I can't mention here.

Another is the scientific process, Baconian Process (distant relative BTW) . If you think GRAS and other type recommendations for drugs, foods, etc are strictly by the scientific method, then you are welcome to believe that. I for one, don't believe it. And I understand it's a balancing act.

My belief is to limit to zero anything that isn't real food. Yes I have and will take drugs when absolutely necessary. I am not here to say all drugs are bad. I mean even the gift of antibiotics, saved billions of lives by now, have a real dark side.

So again. I'm heading for 68 and people simply don't think I look or act 68. I'm not bragging, and I am certainly not old, or even near perfect. I just don't eat or take junk in my body. I realize I am truly blessed to be in this position because yes it costs more $ for pure foods.

Of course people should eat healthy, exercise to some degree (some is better than nothing) and not rely on drugs unless necessary. I'm like you, don't rely on drugs unless required, and have never been on any type of daily meds. Mostly due to genes, as my family on both sides is long lived (90-100). Everyone has different genetics, so that's a big factor too. But that doesn't mean people who make claims without solid research and scientific proof should be believed and followed ... that can be even more dangerous - that was the point of saying who do you follow when it comes to putting stuff in your body. Certainly not those who don't believe in science and don't have good proof.

 

[ctechbob]

I haven't been formally diagnosed, but genetic testing my ASD daughter showed a paternal genetic link. After learning that fun little fact and observing my daughter's behaviors and struggles, a lot of the confusing times of my childhood (and as an adult) starting making a lot of sense.

Same here. When I look back through my life through that lense I notice a whole lot of things that have plagued me through the years that I've beat myself up over not realizing I probably had no control over them.

Acknowledging it has made life a whole lot easier for me and the people around me.