NAPA GOLD filters are a little on the pricey side and I can get the WIX filters here for $6......I am pretty sure WIX are clearly better than NAPA Silver, but what is the difference in the WIX and NAPA Gold filter media?? How about flow rates.....
Are NAPA Gold / WIX filter media the same??
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The Wix and NAPA Gold are identical filters. I'm 98% sure of that.
Thanks PATMAN...here is a post I did on another thread.....you replied to it saynin it may just be old stock......I agree...jsut wanted to re-post this info here for people to look out ...
"The WIX saga continues.....I just went to the local O'Reilly's and picked up a couple of WIX filters: A 51036 for my LT1 Corvette and a 51522 for my wifes LS1 TransAm......now the funy part...the 51036 for the LT1 has a silicone anti drain back valve (red) and the 51522 does not. This one has only a black anti drain back valve, so I assume it is nitirle......WIX' web site list filter media as "Paper" for both.....what gives??
"The WIX saga continues.....I just went to the local O'Reilly's and picked up a couple of WIX filters: A 51036 for my LT1 Corvette and a 51522 for my wifes LS1 TransAm......now the funy part...the 51036 for the LT1 has a silicone anti drain back valve (red) and the 51522 does not. This one has only a black anti drain back valve, so I assume it is nitirle......WIX' web site list filter media as "Paper" for both.....what gives??
Well the T/A is a ragtop, so heavier and not quite as quick as a coupe.....both have automatics and both have performance axles...........guess what, they are both dead on for performance as far as we could determine.....the Vette is jsut a hair quicker because it hooks up better and just moves off the line........on the top end the T/A makes up a little time...the Corvette drives a lot more dynamic, not just because of suspension and such, but because the programming of the automaitc is A LOT more geared towards performance driving. it shifts much earlier and quicker down than the T/A.....you haev to really mash it for the T/A to downshift......also in everyday driving the Corvette has more bottom end and therefore feels stronger and is quicker around town......but watch out once you get the T/A above 3,000 rpm.....very strong upper end charge.....The T/A is my wife's, the Vette is mine.......
Besides...the T/A is a rattle box...it's our second 4th gen F-body and they are poorly built (we had a 98 Camaro Z28 6-speed before). A rattle here and shake there........not NEARLY as quality built as the Vette. If I had to choose, I'd definitly keep the Vette. BTW C4s are total bargains now...prices have fallen through the floor.just watch out.....a lot of junk out there too.....
That sucks 2 friends of mine both have LT1 f bodies, one a 30th anniversary Z with 93k and the other a 95 Z with 110k miles. If either car rattles, it's only at a minimum. Neither have ever been wrecked though either, so that might have something to do with it. The 5 f bodies I've driven (3LS1 2 LT1) didn't seem to rattle any at all. They're not BMW's obviously, but I always thought the 4th gen f bodies were fairly decent with rattles and build quality.
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My 95 Formula is relatively squeak and rattle free, but a big part of that is that it doesn't have t-roofs. The only squeaks my 98 Formula had all came from the t-roof area.
Drive a F-Body convertible...they're much worse than even the t-top coupes (Our LS1 Z28 was a t-top coupe)...... then drive a late C4 Corvette and you think you are in heaven.......C4s can be bad too, especially the early ones, but mine is absolutely perfect.....my 96 C4 LT4 convertible I had before this 96 LT1 coupe was too.....even though I like the T/A, it's no comparison with the Y-Body....
[ April 07, 2003, 01:46 PM: Message edited by: Alex D ]
[ April 07, 2003, 01:46 PM: Message edited by: Alex D ]
That is to bad! I hate rattles! My wifes 2002 Camaro is quite solid even when we have to Drive it to her parents farm on dirt roads! The worst rattle is when you close the door when the window is down it will clunk but most cars will do that.
As far as BMW's go my sister has a 2002 with the largest 6 cilender engine and It has a turbo and it still can not even come close to the Camaro. Last time we raced she was so pissed because with in block the Camaro had almost 2 car lengths on her BMW! Rattles or no rattles I'll take an F-Body over a BMW any day!
yeah.......you're right.....but I take a Corvette over both
I would too!!!! One day I'll have my Vette in the drive way!
I was talking to my sis tonight and she was arguing with me that at higher speeds her turbo would kick in and take the Camaro. I told her that the ls1 has to much power and would still have no problem widening the gap! I don't think we will find out though as there are to many cops around here to be recing at that speed!
Sisters...ya got to love em'!
She will probibly still argue when I have the Corvette.
She hates American cars ever sience her Grand Am gave her alot or problems from day one and now thinks foreign are best and that is why I love to smoke her BMW!
I was talking to my sis tonight and she was arguing with me that at higher speeds her turbo would kick in and take the Camaro. I told her that the ls1 has to much power and would still have no problem widening the gap! I don't think we will find out though as there are to many cops around here to be recing at that speed!
That 2002 Turbo is a rare car........I know, I had a friend who is a BMW mwchanic and had one...... I was born and raised in Germany and moved here in 1990........those 2002 turbos were fast cars in their days, no doubt, but only a 2 liter four banger......they are rated at 170hp and had their share of engine problems if driven hard...........she could put any amount of turbos on that engine she wants and a roots compressor on top and she still would not keep up with an LT1 or LS1 f-body........no chance !!
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Originally posted by Chris B.:
I would too!!!! One day I'll have my Vette in the drive way!
I was talking to my sis tonight and she was arguing with me that at higher speeds her turbo would kick in and take the Camaro. I told her that the ls1 has to much power and would still have no problem widening the gap! I don't think we will find out though as there are to many cops around here to be recing at that speed!Sisters...ya got to love em'!She will probibly still argue when I have the Corvette.She hates American cars ever sience her Grand Am gave her alot or problems from day one and now thinks foreign are best and that is why I love to smoke her BMW!
I'm pretty sure it is a 6 cilender engine or a 5. Next time she comes over I'll pop her hood and take a look! it is a fast car but not as fast as the ls1 and feels slow when I drive it after I've driven the Camaro.
So when I'm out looking for a Vette in the future I'd like to buy new but if I have to buy used what should I look for in terms of quality you mentioned earlier? Any problems I should look for? Thanks!
So when I'm out looking for a Vette in the future I'd like to buy new but if I have to buy used what should I look for in terms of quality you mentioned earlier? Any problems I should look for? Thanks!
Well, if it is a six banger, it is not a 2002...2002 is a 2 liter 02 series small BMW two door sedan and there never was a six installed in the 02 series BMWs. They were only built until 1977 and the turbo was a special factory homologation car in order to get qualified for certain class racing. They only built 1,600 of those. These little rascals do 0-60 in about 6.9 sec and top out at 130 mph. The turbo didn't kick in until 3,500-4,000 rpm with terrible turbo lag below that range. They blew through head gaskets like crazy if you loaded the engine when cold. The 02 series car doesn't support that long of an engine (neither the big block nor the small block six cylinder BMW engine).......must but a 3 series car.....they came with fours and sixes.......surprising, since there were no factory 3 series turbos...post some pictures or send them....maybe it is a custome set-up......
Here is some info on the 2002 turbo:
Only 1,672 Turbos were ever made. None were certified for sale in the USA. Today, the 2002 Turbo is one of the most sought after 2002's.
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The ultimate New Class sedan was the 2002 Turbo. The 2002 Turbo was introduced at the 1973 Frankfurt Auto Show. Production stopped in July 1975. Between July 1973 and July 1975, only 1,672 models were built. None were certified for sale in the USA.
The 2002 Turbo produced 170 hp at 5800 rpm, with the same basic 2.0-liter engine as the 2002 ti.
The distinguishing feature of the Turbo was the Kuhnle, Kopp & Kausch turbocharger. It was mounted low on the right front of the engine and air was fed to it through a tube. The holes in the front spoiler are for cooling. The large center opening is for the oil cooler, while the smaller one to the right is used for the tube that feeds cool air directly onto the turbo itself.
The Turbo had heavy-duty clutch and steering, a 40% limited slip differential, and 10" vented rotors for the front brakes. A Getrag close ratio 5-speed gearbox was optional. Heavy-duty shocks were fitted, along with standard 13-inch two-tone steel wheels, the same as 320i wheels. 6" wide "turbo style" alloys were optional.
The 2002 Turbo was made in only two colors, Chamonix white and Polaris silver, with a tri-color M stripe on the sides and front spoiler. Other external features were the Turbo badge on the left rear, the fender flares, the rear deck spoiler, the lack of a front bumper, and the front spoiler. The very early models had "2002 turbo" in reverse script on the front spoiler.
A red plastic panel highlights the instrument cluster, which contains a clock and a boost gauge. There is no oil pressure or oil temperature gauge. The boost gauge has a white zone (no boost), a green zone (the boost is On), and a red zone (too much boost). Black sport seats and a sport steering wheel were standard. Most 2002 options were either standard or available, including cloth seats and a sunroof. Air-conditioning was not an option because there was no room for the condenser.
The 2002 Turbo can do 0-60 in 6.9 seconds with a top speed of 130 mph. The turbocharger kicks in at about 3500-4000 rpm.
See Pictures and the original factory brochure here:
http://www.bmwworld.com/models/newclass/2002_turbo_brochure.htm
http://www.motorbase.com/vehicle/8/0/
[ April 08, 2003, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: Alex D ]
Here is some info on the 2002 turbo:
Only 1,672 Turbos were ever made. None were certified for sale in the USA. Today, the 2002 Turbo is one of the most sought after 2002's.
Information
The ultimate New Class sedan was the 2002 Turbo. The 2002 Turbo was introduced at the 1973 Frankfurt Auto Show. Production stopped in July 1975. Between July 1973 and July 1975, only 1,672 models were built. None were certified for sale in the USA.
The 2002 Turbo produced 170 hp at 5800 rpm, with the same basic 2.0-liter engine as the 2002 ti.
The distinguishing feature of the Turbo was the Kuhnle, Kopp & Kausch turbocharger. It was mounted low on the right front of the engine and air was fed to it through a tube. The holes in the front spoiler are for cooling. The large center opening is for the oil cooler, while the smaller one to the right is used for the tube that feeds cool air directly onto the turbo itself.
The Turbo had heavy-duty clutch and steering, a 40% limited slip differential, and 10" vented rotors for the front brakes. A Getrag close ratio 5-speed gearbox was optional. Heavy-duty shocks were fitted, along with standard 13-inch two-tone steel wheels, the same as 320i wheels. 6" wide "turbo style" alloys were optional.
The 2002 Turbo was made in only two colors, Chamonix white and Polaris silver, with a tri-color M stripe on the sides and front spoiler. Other external features were the Turbo badge on the left rear, the fender flares, the rear deck spoiler, the lack of a front bumper, and the front spoiler. The very early models had "2002 turbo" in reverse script on the front spoiler.
A red plastic panel highlights the instrument cluster, which contains a clock and a boost gauge. There is no oil pressure or oil temperature gauge. The boost gauge has a white zone (no boost), a green zone (the boost is On), and a red zone (too much boost). Black sport seats and a sport steering wheel were standard. Most 2002 options were either standard or available, including cloth seats and a sunroof. Air-conditioning was not an option because there was no room for the condenser.
The 2002 Turbo can do 0-60 in 6.9 seconds with a top speed of 130 mph. The turbocharger kicks in at about 3500-4000 rpm.
See Pictures and the original factory brochure here:
http://www.bmwworld.com/models/newclass/2002_turbo_brochure.htm
http://www.motorbase.com/vehicle/8/0/
[ April 08, 2003, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: Alex D ]
In regards to your question what to look for: In general if you are looking at a C4, buy as new as possible. Mileage, condition and service history superseed model year in importance. there are some reeeallly bad C4s out there and some very nice ones. Low mileage C4s still cost a good dollar eevn though no other corvette is losing as much value as the C4s now. I would definitly recommend a post-1993 LT1. In 1994 the LT1 went to MAF sensors and sequential fuel injection instead of MAP sensor and batch injection. MAF cars are more agreeable and respond better to slight modifications without having to re-program the PCM. Every year up to the last C4 in 1996, there were nice and important improvements made. Especially transmission durability in 95 and 96. the LT4 in 96 and OBD II in 96. If you want a six speed car, I would go with a 1996 LT4 for some extra punch. If you buy an automatic, make sure it has the performance axle option (RPO G44/G92. Even though not substantially faster, they are much more fun to drive. What else?? Ask specific questions if you'd like or read two books: The Corvette Black Book and the Corvette Buyer's Guide to help you decide.
If you are looking into a C5, take your pick. 2001 and later cars have noticeably more hp and tq.
[ April 08, 2003, 02:19 PM: Message edited by: Alex D ]
If you are looking into a C5, take your pick. 2001 and later cars have noticeably more hp and tq.
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Well I raced a Vette yesterday... and even gave him a handicap...BLEW HIS DOORS OFF with my 4.0L Jeep and B.F.G A/T KO's...oh...did I tell you we had 6 inches of snow yesterday
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Originally posted by Greaser:
Well I raced a Vette yesterday... and even gave him a handicap...BLEW HIS DOORS OFF with my 4.0L Jeep and B.F.G A/T KO's...oh...did I tell you we had 6 inches of snow yesterday
Now I'm not going to be able to sleep till I Know what is under her hood!
Oh, and thanks for the tips on the Corvettes!
Chris......reading the oilforum at 2:48am !!! .........take a pill man !! LOL
This post sure has veered off the track and is in the woods now..
I'd be interested to hear from you what she has under the hood, but I am sure it's not a six......at least not from the factory.....I know those cars well.......I was born in Germany and grew up in the 70s and 80s, so they were all around ........ there's no space fo a six under their hoods.....post or link some pictures if you can.......hope you liked the web sites.......there is some good stuff on the 02 (or "Neue Klasse" = New Class as BMW called it)series on the web.......what not many people know is that these cars saved BMW from bancruptcy in the early 70s...BMW had a bad model strategy and their cars did not sell well......the 02 series was very, very successful and saved the company.....rest is history......
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This post sure has veered off the track and is in the woods now..
I'd be interested to hear from you what she has under the hood, but I am sure it's not a six......at least not from the factory.....I know those cars well.......I was born in Germany and grew up in the 70s and 80s, so they were all around ........ there's no space fo a six under their hoods.....post or link some pictures if you can.......hope you liked the web sites.......there is some good stuff on the 02 (or "Neue Klasse" = New Class as BMW called it)series on the web.......what not many people know is that these cars saved BMW from bancruptcy in the early 70s...BMW had a bad model strategy and their cars did not sell well......the 02 series was very, very successful and saved the company.....rest is history......
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Originally posted by Chris B.:
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Originally posted by Greaser:
Well I raced a Vette yesterday... and even gave him a handicap...BLEW HIS DOORS OFF with my 4.0L Jeep and B.F.G A/T KO's...oh...did I tell you we had 6 inches of snow yesterday
Now I'm not going to be able to sleep till I Know what is under her hood!It is a 2002 and it is white. As soon as I see her again I'll let you know what it is!
Oh, and thanks for the tips on the Corvettes!
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