Apple demands triple damages - 3billion

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Originally Posted By: dparm
http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-s...ll-along-202299


This article sheds some real light on how and why the patent office is totally inept.

What bothers me about this patent is that Apple did not patent the touchscreen, nor the use of touchscreens on mobile phones, nor the mobile phone without any buttons. So given the universal need to lock a touchscreen-equipped smartphone to prevent butt-dialing, how is a non-Apple manufacturer of a touchscreen-only smartphone supposed to implement locking and unlocking? I am obviously not an expert on patent law, but I don't understand how you can file a patent on basically the only way to solve a specific problem.


Right. The main question is novelty and if it is obvious to someone skilled in the art. Locking and unlocking is known to those reasonably skilled in the art, even if not a finger swipe. Actually the android approach of the multi-point pattern is more unique and non-obvious.
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: Nick R
Originally Posted By: rshaw125
Good maybe I'll be getting a nice dividend.


Obvious troll post is obvious.


...Says the guy who trolls the internet for negative news on a company he loves to hate and promptly posts it on a message board known for polarized opinions on said company.


Quoted for posterity.
 
Update to the story. Apple is demanding ONE MILLION BILLION dollars.

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One thing I have learned from this site is when people are complaining it's time to buy stock.
Posts complaining about Exxon Mobil. Plenty. Their stock pays a nice dividend and is a hedge against $4 gas.
I am not going to gloat and say what a paid for Apple stock. No complaints from me. My IRA loves fruit.
 
Originally Posted By: Rick in PA
What we need is a fresh, upstart company to break the status quo:



Ironic, eh?


So are you denying that Mac was fairly unique (the PARC/Xerox stories aside) and took until Windows 95+ (really windows 7) to catch up? In 84 what did you have? DOS?

Or are you just trying to create fodder on a different and distinct product, because of your pointed hatred (as the poster just above stated)?
 
Originally Posted By: Nick R
I can't imagine this judge is going to do anything except laugh in their face and throw the whole thing out.


I'm sure you based that statement with your in depth knowledge of the law, right?
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In any case, stuff like that will not affect my decision to buy or not to buy hardware. Now, when buying stock, that's a different story.
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: Brons2
I'm going to take all my music off of my iPod and smash it to bits.


Please don't; send it to me instead. I'll pay the shipping!


I forgot at the time I posted the above that my iPod was given to me as a gift by my sister. So I decided I better not smash it. However, if I had paid for it myself, I would have already smashed it. I guess I'll just give it to my girfriend, she can put her music on it and I can wash my hands of Apple.

Maybe I'll just try to find a 1st gen iPod for cheap and smash that.
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If it happens I will put it on YouTube.
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT

Apple's just mad that they won't have Google Maps on their phones. That's a deal breaker for many people and they know it.


Really???!? Because with iOs 6 coming, I was reading quite a bit about this, and it appears that Apple dropped Google, not the other way around.



I think it's somewhat mutual. Apple thumbed their nose at Google (like they do everyone else).

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-09...-to-google-feud

As of now, form these article, you can't get Google maps for the iPhone, and Apple maps is a pos.

http://www.businessinsider.com/google-exec-says-use-web-based-maps-on-iphone-2012-9

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/20/technology/apple-ios-6-leaves-out-googles-maps.html

No Google maps on a phone would be a deal breaker for me. When I'm traveling, it has every spot in the database, even in small rural towns.
 
I dont know if apple maps is that bad. I had iOs 6 install on my ipad last night to see, since i dont use that for a GPS when traveling. The maps looked fine, they found me fine, the 3D was an interesting function...

Some places were not in their correct spot, but that is nothing new - I travel all over the country, and have routinely found issues with google maps too... Sometimes they give poor routing, and sometimes you search for something specific in an area, and they give you a completely different result somewhere else. Everything has teething issues, so we will have to see what comes of this.

What does interest me is the use of vector-based graphics on Apple maps, which allows much more map area to be cached and displayed promptly... Something useful when stuck in bad traffic someplace like DC where everyone is on their phone, and service is real slow and non-responsive.

I dont use any database of locations or anything like that, but do use google maps on my iphone a TON... So Im not keen on transitoning my 4s too soon... But Im not seeing apple maps as being horrible either, certainly nothing I didnt encounter using google maps. Will see when I get more out in the boonies though... Google did do a great job to map a ton of stuff. I even saw a google car on the road today doing street view (which I never use) photos.
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I dont know if apple maps is that bad.


It's really not. I updated to iOS 6 this morning before I left for work. I had my phone route me to work. I was in a hurry, so I quickly panned to where I work, long-pressed on the screen, and it dropped a pin. I tapped on the pin and tapped on "navigate to here" (or whatever the button said). In a half second, it brought up the overview map and offered me a choice of three different routes. I could easily tap the route I wished to take.

Navigating is just fine with it. As you say, it's vector-based rather than raster-based, so labeling is very nice on it. It gives you a time of arrival as well as a time remaining and distance remaining in a small and compact area at the top of the screen. I think the next turn box (the "turn left at so-and-so street" box) is too large, but that's a minor nit-pick.

I deliberately passed a turn and where my Android phone would chug for 5-10 seconds on trying to find an alternate route, the iPhone picked it up nearly immediately. I also wasn't presented with a bunch of annoying "make a U-turn when you can" prompts. It simply re-directed me on the next-fastest route.

I'd say that the Google Maps application itself is more functional than the Apple Maps application based only on the fact that Google offers street view. Without street view, I think both are fairly comparable, and I prefer the Apple application when navigating due to the faster routing and faster graphics (vector vs. raster).

Apple also offers live traffic on their app. To be fair, Google Navigation may offer this as well, I don't know. It's been a while since I've had an Android phone.

Apple's Map navigation is a good start. It is missing in some areas, but in my opinion, both Apple's and Google's navigation apps do what they're intended to do well: get you from Point A to Point B with infrequent or limited use. I don't want to say, "to be used only in a pinch," but if you're using your phone to navigate you on a daily basis, you can probably find value in purchasing either a stand-alone GPS or a paid navigation app. I have CoPilot on our 7" Android tablet that I use in the CR-V when on trips. That paid app blows both free apps (Apple and Google) out of the water when it comes to true GPS navigation.
 
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT

It would be like one automaker suing another automaker because both cars are square and have doors that open.


No. It's not at all like that. I'm not trying to sound rude, but it has been stated on this forum before and it is freely available on the net if you look, you should know about patent law before you comment on it.

Design patents only last for 14 years. The patent on the automobile has been expired for long long long LONG time.

So it's nothing like a automaker sueing another automaker. Nothin at all. Not even a little bit.

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT

Apple's just mad that they won't have Google Maps on their phones. That's a deal breaker for many people and they know it.


Again. The lack of information is leading to false statements.

Google WANTS to add maps and all their other software apps to the iPhones. Apple is the one not letting them do it.

Apple is trying to remove google from their products. They want to deliver their consumers the content.

For a first try at a maps application, Apple hit it out of the park!
The navigation is butter smooth and the 3D renders are stunning.
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: Rick in PA
What we need is a fresh, upstart company to break the status quo:



Ironic, eh?


So are you denying that Mac was fairly unique (the PARC/Xerox stories aside) and took until Windows 95+ (really windows 7) to catch up? In 84 what did you have? DOS?

Or are you just trying to create fodder on a different and distinct product, because of your pointed hatred (as the poster just above stated)?


Apple and Windows are both lineage directly to Xerox PARC. In a way, it's kind of unfortunate that Xerox was unable to capitalize on their own developments. But sometimes that's the case. The first out may not be mature enough or is too expensive, and it's later entrants that get the market share. Not always the case, but sometimes, defiantly in this case.

In 1984 I had a Coleco Adam (and a Timex Sinclair stashed away). That was what I could afford and it got done what I needed to do. Plus, I could play Burgertime when I needed a break!

Please don't attribute "pointed hatred" to me. While I am not a fan of Apple software on my Windows machines (it's too demanding of resources), I do respect what Apple hardware I have encountered. The Apple hardware and interface is "slick" and "smooth" definitely "cutting edge".

My point is that what starts as rebellious anti-establishment eventually becomes the establishment. This is the way of life. I have seen this in governments, businesses, even individuals. Stopping to think about it, what starts out as the most rebellious often ends up as the strictest establishment, curious...
 
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Update to the story. Apple is demanding ONE MILLION BILLION dollars.

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ONE KABILLION DOLLARS!
 
This thread is pretty amusing. Years ago Apple no one bought Apple because "they were a few months from going out of business." Now they are so successful people attack them for that, and only with 10% of the PC market lol.

If their demand for extra compensation accomplishes one worthwhile thing, it was to annoy Nick even further.
 
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Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
This thread is pretty amusing. Years ago Apple no one bought Apple because "they were a few months from going out of business." Now they are so successful people attack them for that, and only with 10% of the PC market lol.

If their demand for extra compensation accomplishes one worthwhile thing, it was to annoy Nick even further.


Apple was trading at $200 in 2009. Now $700. Some people whine others share in the profits. I don't own an iphone but I do own their stock.
 
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