Anything wrong with NAPA synthetic ?

[donnyj08]

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
It's not rebottled Synpower. Here's what Ashland told me:

The NAPA Private Label Synthetic does carry a different formulation from our Valvoline SynPower. Though these formulation differences are not drastic, they are present. NAPA comes to Valvoline with a certain set of specifications that they want their oil to meet, and we formulate the oil per their request. These specifications however, are not as broad as the Valvoline standards, therefore the Valvoline will cover more applications.



Napa will want their oil "more affordable" because it is their house brand. They won't want to pay the full cost for Synpower.

 

[Tony10s]

Originally Posted By: sopususer
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
It's not rebottled Synpower. Here's what Ashland told me:

The NAPA Private Label Synthetic does carry a different formulation from our Valvoline SynPower. Though these formulation differences are not drastic, they are present. NAPA comes to Valvoline with a certain set of specifications that they want their oil to meet, and we formulate the oil per their request. These specifications however, are not as broad as the Valvoline standards, therefore the Valvoline will cover more applications.


There does seem to be some differences (maybe statistical standard errors of measurement) between respective grades. Maybe they are slightly different?

But if they were the same, I wouldn't expect Ashland to say so. Why would they admit that an oil selling for a fair discount over their labeled Synpower is in fact the exact same oil? Wouldn't make good business sense.

Using it in the '14 Silverado. Dexos rated 0W-20 and no issues.


I thought they were the same ... guess I was wrong.

But what you said makes sense though. IF NAPA Synthetic and Valvoline SynPower were exactly the same, who would ever buy SynPower then?

To the OP:
I have used NAPA Synthetic and Conventional before, and I will use both again in the future. Nothing wrong with the NAPA oil ... use it with confidence.

_________________________
2012 Hyundai Elantra GLS, 1.8L
Quaker State Synthetic (QSUD) 5W-20
Hyundai OEM Oil Filter #26300-35503
Hastings Engine Air Filter #AF1511

2011 Ford Focus SE, 2.0L
Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20
Motorcraft Oil Filter #FL-910S
Motorcraft Engine Air Filter #FA-1890

 

[Y_K]

Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
2. I dislike the way the standard font makes the semicolon look all ghostly and faded out; almost to the point of being invisible.

Here's an example:

NAPA synthetic? vs. NAPA synthetic?
NAPA synthetic; vs. NAPA synthetic;

Of course most people can't even see the font differences unless they're using an up to date browser with up to date java scrip.


Aint no nevermind to me anywho - on this UNIX BSD laptop both lines are the same

 

[Oregoonian]

Napa Syn.....IMO......is unimpressive for a synthetic. Its a low-tier synthetic. I would not go beyond 7K OCI.

For a few bucks more, you can purchase a top-of-the-line syn (M-1, PP @ Wm), and do OCI's of 10K or better.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Wonder how Napa oils compare to Super Tech?

 

[Nyogtha]

http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/napasyn.htm

vs

http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/supertech.htm

 

[daves87rs]

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Wonder how Napa oils compare to Super Tech?


About the same....

 

[aquariuscsm]

Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Wonder how Napa oils compare to Super Tech?


About the same....


That's what I was thinking. Looks almost identical.

 

[Merkava_4]

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Wonder how Napa oils compare to Super Tech?


Don't tell anybody, but I chickened out and went and bought a 5-quart bottle of ST synthetic tonight.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

Originally Posted By: Merkava_4

Don't tell anybody, but I chickened out and went and bought a 5-quart bottle of ST synthetic tonight.

Nothing wrong with ST, but Napa is the same price and comes in the quart bottles that are easier to pour (and the Napa bottles are one of the best designs I've seen with a nice, long neck), and if you use less than 5 quarts, the remainder is in a smaller bottle rather than the big jug.

Maybe Napa Synthetic/Synpower isn't the greatest synthetic out there, but for $3.49/qt (or even $2.99 if you're lucky enough to get a coupon) you can't go wrong.

 

[dlundblad]

Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Wonder how Napa oils compare to Super Tech?


Don't tell anybody, but I chickened out and went and bought a 5-quart bottle of ST synthetic tonight.

5w20 I am guessing?

I would water that down with a quart of MMO so it isnt too thick. You dont want to wear out your starter.

 

[Red91]

I'm sure you'll find something you don't like about it.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Wonder how Napa oils compare to Super Tech?


Don't tell anybody, but I chickened out and went and bought a 5-quart bottle of ST synthetic tonight.

Your secret's safe with me.

 

[53' Stude]

So much for the UNION 76 10w30 eh! LOL

 

[Tony10s]

Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4

Don't tell anybody, but I chickened out and went and bought a 5-quart bottle of ST synthetic tonight.

Nothing wrong with ST, but Napa is the same price and comes in the quart bottles that are easier to pour (and the Napa bottles are one of the best designs I've seen with a nice, long neck), and if you use less than 5 quarts, the remainder is in a smaller bottle rather than the big jug.

Maybe Napa Synthetic/Synpower isn't the greatest synthetic out there, but for $3.49/qt (or even $2.99 if you're lucky enough to get a coupon) you can't go wrong.

I agree, and from what I have gathered from Merkava's posts in the past, he doesn't extend his OCIs to 10,000 miles or 7,500 miles. So, even if NAPA Synthetic is not capable of a 10,000 mile OCI (as indicated by another post in this thread), it wouldn't matter in this case. The NAPA Synthetic will do just fine in this case.

By the way, I also like the quart bottles better than the 5-quart jugs for the same reasons you listed.



_________________________
2012 Hyundai Elantra GLS, 1.8L
Quaker State Synthetic (QSUD) 5W-20
Hyundai OEM Oil Filter #26300-35503
Hastings Engine Air Filter #AF1511

2011 Ford Focus SE, 2.0L
Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20
Motorcraft Oil Filter #FL-910S
Motorcraft Engine Air Filter #FA-1890

 

[stchman]

NAPA 0W-20, 5W-20, and 5w30 are all dexos1 licensed.

In order to meet dexos1 spec, the oil must be able to go the OLM mileage which on some vehicles are 8K or more.

So while NAPA Synthetic might not be as good as SynPower, it is obviously good enough to use in GM's new engines for 8K or more.

 

[Tony10s]

Originally Posted By: stchman
NAPA 0W-20, 5W-20, and 5w30 are all dexos1 licensed.

In order to meet dexos1 spec, the oil must be able to go the OLM mileage which on some vehicles are 8K or more.

So while NAPA Synthetic might not be as good as SynPower, it is obviously good enough to use in GM's new engines for 8K or more.


+1

I don't go 8K or more, but I agree with your post.

..... and when I can buy NAPA Synthetic for $3.49/quart or less (or NAPA Conventional for $1.99/quart) for myself or for someone else, I am certainly not going to pass on the opportunity. Also, I don't need 5 quarts of oil for my oil changes; thus, I like the single quart bottles better (and it's also easier to pre-fill the oil filter from a quart bottle). This is one of the reasons I like to buy oil from auto parts stores ... they regularly have sales on their quart bottles of motor oil, and their oil and filter specials typically allow for either the 5-quart jug or 5 single-quart bottles. But this is all just my preference/opinion, of course.

_________________________
2012 Hyundai Elantra GLS, 1.8L
Quaker State Synthetic (QSUD) 5W-20
Hyundai OEM Oil Filter #26300-35503
Hastings Engine Air Filter #AF1511

2011 Ford Focus SE, 2.0L
Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20
Motorcraft Oil Filter #FL-910S
Motorcraft Engine Air Filter #FA-1890