Anything better than a CX5 out there, yet?
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Pretty much all of the suppliers were already here or have built plants close to MTMUS. A number have built new plants in Alabama to accommodate MTMUS. DaikyoNishikawa is one big name amongst them.
“DaikyoNishikawa joins a long list of world-class Japanese companies with growing operations in the state,”
https://www.madeinalabama.com/2019/...ff-construction-on-110-million-alabama-plant/
The suspension is what I was referring to. I think Charlton Hesston's chariot had a similar arrangement.
THAT!
I know I should just test drive one, but one thing I can’t stand is torque steer. Would a FWD turbo CX5 have torque steer? Is it completely absent in AWD turbo version? You may laugh, but my 07 turbo Outback XT has wonderful steering feedback and no torque steer…of course, suspension has been modified (lowered, Bilsteins, sway bars, some bushing enhancements). I don’t track it, and it might have some nasty habits at the rear when at its limits…I don’t know, I haven’t found them, but I wasn’t looking. Other Subarus I’ve driven had over boosted steering and vague. In the “olden days” that much power going into FWD meant serious tug on the steering…maybe even in some AWD offerings back then. Is torque steer gone, or is it a case of “first rule about torque steer is no one talks about torque steer.”
but a stick shift CX50 AWD sounds like it would be super sweet…of course, there is no such thing. Plus I worry about 1st year new model, new factory…in Alabama vs “still made like we always have” in Japan, and revisions to rear suspension…I dunno, maybe the new rear suspension will be better than CX5’s.
but a stick shift CX50 AWD sounds like it would be super sweet…of course, there is no such thing. Plus I worry about 1st year new model, new factory…in Alabama vs “still made like we always have” in Japan, and revisions to rear suspension…I dunno, maybe the new rear suspension will be better than CX5’s.
I have not noticed torque steer in the Mazda 6 2.5T fwd or the CX-5 2.5T awd
all 2022 CX5 are now AWD.
only downside of a CX5 is that people who don't like firm suspensions probably won't like the CX5 on bad roads. those people would be happier with a RAV4 or CRV
CX50/Corolla Cross factory still has 1200 job openings. IMO, I would not want a first year CX50 or Corolla Cross, even with the reputations of Toyota and Mazda.
New factory, new staff + corona = doesn't hurt to wait 12 mo.
only downside of a CX5 is that people who don't like firm suspensions probably won't like the CX5 on bad roads. those people would be happier with a RAV4 or CRV
CX50/Corolla Cross factory still has 1200 job openings. IMO, I would not want a first year CX50 or Corolla Cross, even with the reputations of Toyota and Mazda.
New factory, new staff + corona = doesn't hurt to wait 12 mo.
You wouldn’t want to drive or ride in my Subaru on a rough road either. Too firm. My car‘s role has become more grocery getter / go to trailheads on paved roads / 300 mi roundtrips to relatives. No more commute to office under any weather conditions either. The stick shift is beginning to make less and less sense, and Subaru AWD is not really needed, but I still want responsive drive…with room for 1 mountain bike IN back (not ON back)…and no torque steer when I punch it.
I hear you on “first-year” woes…
there are possibly only 3 reasons for ME to prefer the CX-50:
* possibly need the extra room in back…I actually don’t know if large mtn bike will fit in back of a CX5
* I want better-best rearward visibility, and I think the CX50 rear (D-pillar?) styling might be better for outward vision to the side-rear
* personally I think CX50 looks better than the CX5…at least without the “off-road” gimmicks like roof rack…I think CX30 looks better than CX5 too.
just my opinion
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My take is that they are running production at a slower rate. Besides, robots do most of the assembly anyway.
Their suppliers are feeling the pinch as well, as is everyone.
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GMC Typhoon?
Yea the firmness of the car was surprising. Noticeably stiffer than a stock evo, similar to one on decent coilovers. But at least the turn response is sharp so I suppose you can't have it all....
https://www.carguide.ph/2022/02/2023-mazda-cx-60-to-offer-more-than-300.html
https://www.motor1.com/news/565992/2023-mazda-cx60-phev-teaser/
i am already salivating at the idea of a 300 horsepower awd mazda 3.
https://www.motor1.com/news/565992/2023-mazda-cx60-phev-teaser/
i am already salivating at the idea of a 300 horsepower awd mazda 3.
official reveal on 8 march.
I thino it will damp that added power with weight. The rav4 prime is 4400#, and the cx60...70 for US markets is a 3rd row capable platform that is replacing the cx9 in said trim. I bet this will be 4500#+ easily, and negate the extra power over the cx5 2.5t, by and large.
He's trying to overcome his buyers remorse.
The former. The sum total of useful contributions I've seen from the OP cannot be differentiated from zero.
What trim level of Stelvio did you drive, and what didn't you like about it?
My wife wants to consider trading the Giulia for a Stelvio, because she finds it hard loading the dogs into the back seat.
The rear doors don't open wide enough for her to stuff a 50 lbs dog with bad hips back there.
BC.
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