anyone seen a more sludged filter?

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Pull the pan, too. It prob looks like that filter and needs cleaned out.

Good news...filter works.

Bad news...something is killing your oil. You can't pump sludge, so there may be parts of your engine suffering. Or given the mileage, there's simply enough bearing clearance that it doesn't even matter, haha.
 
Or the valve covers and front cover. Probably looks a little something like this.

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Had a Bosch cartridge filter look close to that on a 2008 Cobalt, It had collapsed due to the sludge.
3,000 miles, 6 months on the oil change, using PP 5w30.
The engine didn't use coolant. All trips were short, in extremely cold weather. -20F or so.
 
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What. Is. That!...did that thing come in on a flat bed?...‚
 
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Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
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What are the details on the oil and interval?

Is that still technically oil?...‚
 
Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter
Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
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What are the details on the oil and interval?

Is that still technically oil?...‚



LOL well figuratively it looks more like grease!
 
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I remember tuning an old Valiant slant six pushbutton transmission, road draft tube been doing mail service for about 4 years. It needed a tune up, and part of the tune up is adjusting the mechanical lifters. Puled off the valve cover and it was a sea of sludge. I scraped out enough so it could breathe again and the oil could drain back I did not set anything, they all had some slack in them so the vales were closing. Changed oil, filter if it had one, I can not remember. Cleaned oil bath air filter, new breather as it was plugged solid. New plugs, points, wires, cap rotor fuel filter. It ran good again, so he went back to using it. I would see him driving it for several more years, then the transmission went out so they scrapped it.

It was beat by then. Epic The slant six was one tough engine.
 
Originally Posted by JohnnyJohnson
Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter
Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
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What are the details on the oil and interval?

Is that still technically oil?...‚



LOL well figuratively it looks more like grease!

...‚...‚...‚ Right! Re-pkg that and sell it!...‚
 
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I remember tuning an old Valiant slant six pushbutton transmission, road draft tube been doing mail service for about 4 years. It needed a tune up, and part of the tune up is adjusting the mechanical lifters. Puled off the valve cover and it was a sea of sludge. I scraped out enough so it could breathe again and the oil could drain back I did not set anything, they all had some slack in them so the vales were closing. Changed oil, filter if it had one, I can not remember. Cleaned oil bath air filter, new breather as it was plugged solid. New plugs, points, wires, cap rotor fuel filter. It ran good again, so he went back to using it. I would see him driving it for several more years, then the transmission went out so they scrapped it.

It was beat by then. Epic The slant six was one tough engine.



I had 2 slant 6's in Dodge Darts. I love how everyone would say they were "great" motors. Ahhh....no, they were not great motors. They formed sludge like crazy. They were garbage as far as I was concerned although in their defense, many motors were sludgers back in the 70's.
 
That's called garbage "All Climate" 10w30 and 10w40 loaded with sludge prone polymeric VM.
Then poor Group I
Then "PCV ? I tossed it to stick it to the Man, man!..

At our ARCO Service Station and garage in Chelmsford, MA, I maintained a fleet of Darts and Novas in the mid to late 70's.

No Sludge.
 
hard to believe but surely true!! back in the day i filled a pound coffee can from a small block chevy lifter valley, asked the guy you run pennzoil, he said how did you know!!! oils today are lots better unless truely abused, very short very cold trips are the worse on any oil,
 
Aside from photographs on BITOG, I've never seen a filter that was sludged at all---but then I've only dissected filters from my own cars, and one from a then-newish Dodge my parents owned.
 
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