I came across "Tor" while looking for something else. is this a legal program? I don't really want to try and go to it or download it. Just have curiosity.
Anyone know about Tor?
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Fairly certain it is a BitTorrent client.
...yes, it is legal
Its for people who value there privacy
What is Tor?
Tor is free software and an open network that helps you defend against traffic analysis, a form of network surveillance that threatens personal freedom and privacy, confidential business activities and relationships, and state security.
Its for people who value there privacy
What is Tor?
Tor is free software and an open network that helps you defend against traffic analysis, a form of network surveillance that threatens personal freedom and privacy, confidential business activities and relationships, and state security.
Law enforcement agencies use Tor so they don't leave traces of their visits to Websites like BITOG.
Using the Tor browser is a surefire way to attract the attention of FBI, CIA, DHS and NSA. They want to know why you are using Tor. Statistically, Tor users are more being spied on than those who do not use Tor.
hotwheels
Using the Tor browser is a surefire way to attract the attention of FBI, CIA, DHS and NSA. They want to know why you are using Tor. Statistically, Tor users are more being spied on than those who do not use Tor.
hotwheels
So, anyone here use it regularly? So where is it based out of?
Would my isp disapprove if I used this?
Originally Posted By: daves66nova
Would my isp disapprove if I used this?
...no
They have no say, nor place in the matter
Short of Child Pornography (rightfully so), the Internet has been, is, and should continue to be, a free for all.
Would my isp disapprove if I used this?
...no
They have no say, nor place in the matter
Short of Child Pornography (rightfully so), the Internet has been, is, and should continue to be, a free for all.
Originally Posted By: hotwheels
Law enforcement agencies use Tor so they don't leave traces of their visits to Websites like BITOG.
Using the Tor browser is a surefire way to attract the attention of FBI, CIA, DHS and NSA. They want to know why you are using Tor. Statistically, Tor users are more being spied on than those who do not use Tor.
hotwheels
Might want to rethink that statement.
Refresh your mind on how the internet works, and how Tor works, and try again.
Law enforcement agencies use Tor so they don't leave traces of their visits to Websites like BITOG.
Using the Tor browser is a surefire way to attract the attention of FBI, CIA, DHS and NSA. They want to know why you are using Tor. Statistically, Tor users are more being spied on than those who do not use Tor.
hotwheels
Might want to rethink that statement.
Refresh your mind on how the internet works, and how Tor works, and try again.
Originally Posted By: daves66nova
Would my isp disapprove if I used this?
Tor is legal.
Even without Tor, your ISP doesn't even know what you are searching for on Google, because they cannot read the data leaving or coming at your computer. They can only tell which Websites you have visited.
If you are using Tor, your ISP won't know what Websites you are visiting, because Tor hides the Webserver. Your Web traffic also gets encrypted and your ISP cannot see your http requests. Using Tor, neither your ISP nor anybody else will know your physical location and they cannot read your incoming or outgoing data stream. Basically nobody can profile and stalk you across the Web.
hotwheels
Would my isp disapprove if I used this?
Tor is legal.
Even without Tor, your ISP doesn't even know what you are searching for on Google, because they cannot read the data leaving or coming at your computer. They can only tell which Websites you have visited.
If you are using Tor, your ISP won't know what Websites you are visiting, because Tor hides the Webserver. Your Web traffic also gets encrypted and your ISP cannot see your http requests. Using Tor, neither your ISP nor anybody else will know your physical location and they cannot read your incoming or outgoing data stream. Basically nobody can profile and stalk you across the Web.
hotwheels
Originally Posted By: hotwheels
Originally Posted By: daves66nova
Would my isp disapprove if I used this?
Tor is legal.
Even without Tor, your ISP doesn't even know what you are searching for on Google, because they cannot read the data leaving or coming at your computer. They can only tell which Websites you have visited.
If you are using Tor, your ISP won't know what Websites you are visiting, because Tor hides the Webserver. Your Web traffic also gets encrypted and your ISP cannot see your http requests. Using Tor, neither your ISP nor anybody else will know your physical location and they cannot read your incoming or outgoing data stream. Basically nobody can profile and stalk you across the Web.
hotwheels
This guy get's it mostly right. It's completely legal to use, though most of the reasons people use it are for illegal reasons. But your ISP really doesn't care what you use the internet for (other than looking for opportunities to charge you more money).
Originally Posted By: daves66nova
Would my isp disapprove if I used this?
Tor is legal.
Even without Tor, your ISP doesn't even know what you are searching for on Google, because they cannot read the data leaving or coming at your computer. They can only tell which Websites you have visited.
If you are using Tor, your ISP won't know what Websites you are visiting, because Tor hides the Webserver. Your Web traffic also gets encrypted and your ISP cannot see your http requests. Using Tor, neither your ISP nor anybody else will know your physical location and they cannot read your incoming or outgoing data stream. Basically nobody can profile and stalk you across the Web.
hotwheels
This guy get's it mostly right. It's completely legal to use, though most of the reasons people use it are for illegal reasons. But your ISP really doesn't care what you use the internet for (other than looking for opportunities to charge you more money).
Originally Posted By: michaelluscher
Originally Posted By: hotwheels
Law enforcement agencies use Tor so they don't leave traces of their visits to Websites like BITOG.
Using the Tor browser is a surefire way to attract the attention of FBI, CIA, DHS and NSA. They want to know why you are using Tor. Statistically, Tor users are more being spied on than those who do not use Tor.
hotwheels
Might want to rethink that statement.
Refresh your mind on how the internet works, and how Tor works, and try again.
No, he's not entirely incorrect. The government has gotten pretty good at finding who is using tor, and tracking what they are using it for. Because a statistically large percentage of what Tor is used for is illegal drug/weapon sales, illegal types of pornography, and that type of thing. But like with most other things, if you keep your nose clean you don't really have anything to worry about.
Originally Posted By: hotwheels
Law enforcement agencies use Tor so they don't leave traces of their visits to Websites like BITOG.
Using the Tor browser is a surefire way to attract the attention of FBI, CIA, DHS and NSA. They want to know why you are using Tor. Statistically, Tor users are more being spied on than those who do not use Tor.
hotwheels
Might want to rethink that statement.
Refresh your mind on how the internet works, and how Tor works, and try again.
No, he's not entirely incorrect. The government has gotten pretty good at finding who is using tor, and tracking what they are using it for. Because a statistically large percentage of what Tor is used for is illegal drug/weapon sales, illegal types of pornography, and that type of thing. But like with most other things, if you keep your nose clean you don't really have anything to worry about.
Originally Posted By: daves66nova
I came across "Tor" while looking for something else. is this a legal program? I don't really want to try and go to it or download it. Just have curiosity.
It was developed by the US military. It better be legal.
I came across "Tor" while looking for something else. is this a legal program? I don't really want to try and go to it or download it. Just have curiosity.
It was developed by the US military. It better be legal.
Originally Posted By: dishdude
From what I understand, if you are very careful and know what you are doing, Tor can be very effective. However it's easy to make one mistake and everything can be traced.
Mistakes like not letting Tor resolve DNS requests?
hotwheels
From what I understand, if you are very careful and know what you are doing, Tor can be very effective. However it's easy to make one mistake and everything can be traced.
Mistakes like not letting Tor resolve DNS requests?
hotwheels
It is a legal program. Your ISP will not disapprove. Tor will do it's best to make you doings on the internet hard to identify that it came from you and what you exactly did. I used the words 'do it's best' and 'hard to identify' for a reason. Tor is no guarantee. Federal and international intellects will figure it out and in fact if you are at home on your computer using it, good old police detective work will still identify that it originated from your home.
Go ahead and play with it though. Just don't visit any underaged p0rn sites, FBI will eventually be right at your door.
Go ahead and play with it though. Just don't visit any underaged p0rn sites, FBI will eventually be right at your door.
Another good privacy program is Tails. It makes use of Tor.
hotwheels
hotwheels
Tor encrypts and bounces your data around the globe in an effort to both hide and to brute-force obfuscate your data. The FBI can only coerce so many foreign governments into providing user data, after all. They, like everyone else, are bound by budgets and humans. The encryption algorithm itself is largely only theoretically breakable - from a practical standpoint is it impractical to try. If someone is compromised using Tor it is almost certainly due to humans and their errors or deceptions.
It's intended purpose is/ was to protect those living in places where they may endanger themselves by communicating. Think "Syrian blogger posting images of atrocities" as a prototypical Tor user.
When you run it, you become one of the nodes through which other users' data passes. I believe the Tor GUI actually provides you with a map of where your data is going - It is impressive!
All of that bouncing around slows your traffic down to the point where it is unproductive to try to use it for downloading movie torrents, for example. (You didn't hear it from me; but just use a torrent application that uses and prefers encryption and blocklists for that!)
Originally Posted By: hotwheels
Another good privacy program is Tails. It makes use of Tor.
Tails is an entire Debian Linux-based operating system that uses Tor by default for web, email and instant messaging. The truly paranoid run Tails from a USB stick.
It's intended purpose is/ was to protect those living in places where they may endanger themselves by communicating. Think "Syrian blogger posting images of atrocities" as a prototypical Tor user.
When you run it, you become one of the nodes through which other users' data passes. I believe the Tor GUI actually provides you with a map of where your data is going - It is impressive!
All of that bouncing around slows your traffic down to the point where it is unproductive to try to use it for downloading movie torrents, for example. (You didn't hear it from me; but just use a torrent application that uses and prefers encryption and blocklists for that!)
Originally Posted By: hotwheels
Another good privacy program is Tails. It makes use of Tor.
Tails is an entire Debian Linux-based operating system that uses Tor by default for web, email and instant messaging. The truly paranoid run Tails from a USB stick.
Originally Posted By: hotwheels
Using the Tor browser is a surefire way to attract the attention of FBI, CIA, DHS and NSA. They want to know why you are using Tor. Statistically, Tor users are more being spied on than those who do not use Tor.
Your post reminded me of this comic:
Using the Tor browser is a surefire way to attract the attention of FBI, CIA, DHS and NSA. They want to know why you are using Tor. Statistically, Tor users are more being spied on than those who do not use Tor.
Your post reminded me of this comic:
Originally Posted By: michaelluscher
Originally Posted By: hotwheels
Law enforcement agencies use Tor so they don't leave traces of their visits to Websites like BITOG.
Using the Tor browser is a surefire way to attract the attention of FBI, CIA, DHS and NSA. They want to know why you are using Tor. Statistically, Tor users are more being spied on than those who do not use Tor.
hotwheels
Might want to rethink that statement.
Refresh your mind on how the internet works, and how Tor works, and try again.
You might want to do some research before you act like a tool and post memes. Visiting pages that talk about Tor or the Tails Linux distribution (which includes Tor) will get you flagged for deeper internet tracking (and permanent retention of the logs). It's all in source code that was leaked by Edward Snowden.
Originally Posted By: hotwheels
Law enforcement agencies use Tor so they don't leave traces of their visits to Websites like BITOG.
Using the Tor browser is a surefire way to attract the attention of FBI, CIA, DHS and NSA. They want to know why you are using Tor. Statistically, Tor users are more being spied on than those who do not use Tor.
hotwheels
Might want to rethink that statement.
Refresh your mind on how the internet works, and how Tor works, and try again.
You might want to do some research before you act like a tool and post memes. Visiting pages that talk about Tor or the Tails Linux distribution (which includes Tor) will get you flagged for deeper internet tracking (and permanent retention of the logs). It's all in source code that was leaked by Edward Snowden.
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