I just got a 4095 carbine. It's a .40 S&W. FUN GUN! If you're looking for a cheap but well-made trunk gun or home gun, I can recommend these. I have read the usual rants about these guns, but mine shot really good out of the box, and the fit was 100%. No burrs or plastic flashing. It did shoot high and right, but they also give you the tool to make adjustments with (or use a Swiss Army knife). It has digested PMC, Remington UMC, and Golden Saber without hiccup. I havebeen guilty of running a swab down the bore both when I got it home and after each range session. That old Army training won't let go (wink). Has anyone owned a pistol? I'd like your take on a .40 cal.specifically.
Anyone have a Hi-Point besides me?
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I don't know about the 40 cal but I had a 9mm carbine from hi-point when they first came out but sold it years ago. It shot 4" groups at 75 yards, never jammed and cost me $160 at the time. It was a pain in the [censored] to take apart and clean, had a terrible trigger, but it worked. For someone who doesn't want to buy a pistol and get the permits required for it, and doesn't want to spend a penny more than they have to, it would be a good choice for home defense.
I have played with hi-point pistols at gun shops and I really don't recommend them. They are extremely bulky and awkward, have terrible triggers and just so ugly to boot. Do they work? I have seen very mixed reviews, most say they are very ammo sensisitive.
If you are so broke you can only afford a hi-point, I would recommend you save your money and shop around for a quality gun that is used or look at the kel-tec line. Sometimes the ruger LCP and other small pistols like it can be had for less than $300 as well.
I have played with hi-point pistols at gun shops and I really don't recommend them. They are extremely bulky and awkward, have terrible triggers and just so ugly to boot. Do they work? I have seen very mixed reviews, most say they are very ammo sensisitive.
If you are so broke you can only afford a hi-point, I would recommend you save your money and shop around for a quality gun that is used or look at the kel-tec line. Sometimes the ruger LCP and other small pistols like it can be had for less than $300 as well.
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Best to look for an old Makarov or CZ82 for a budget gun over a hi point piece of garbage pistol. The carbines are mediocre, but for a little more the Kel Tec sub 2000 is a much better carbine, plus they use common glock mags.
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Originally Posted By: 2cool
Has anyone owned a pistol? I'd like your take on a .40 cal.specifically.
I keep the .40 pistol and a couple of extra loaded mags in my desk at the office. Mine's a tack driver.
You have a rare one from what I have seen at the range and as a one time FFL holder. Last one I saw in 9mm was horrible at 25 yards.
Originally Posted By: 2cool
Has anyone owned a pistol? I'd like your take on a .40 cal.specifically.
I keep the .40 pistol and a couple of extra loaded mags in my desk at the office. Mine's a tack driver.
You have a rare one from what I have seen at the range and as a one time FFL holder. Last one I saw in 9mm was horrible at 25 yards.
I had a Hi-Point 9mm carbine. It was a fun plinking gun, and actually pretty accurate, but it was cheap as [censored]. It was ugly to be honest. There are aftermarket stocks available though.
Mine did jam on the feed ramp a couple times, but it was easy to clear. No other issues.
I traded it for a shotgun.
The used, but very good condition 9mm Ruger pistol I now use for plinking was definitely worth it. It was twice the cost of the Hi-Point (bought new), but money well spent.
Mine did jam on the feed ramp a couple times, but it was easy to clear. No other issues.
I traded it for a shotgun.
The used, but very good condition 9mm Ruger pistol I now use for plinking was definitely worth it. It was twice the cost of the Hi-Point (bought new), but money well spent.
01rangerxl,
I beleive you should have kept it! I read an article about these rifles/pistols and although they were low priced weapons they were considered not too bad to have. They functioned well but was hard as [censored] to take apart and clean but using a can of spray cleaner one can clean it that way. Consider it a good survival tool.
Durango
I beleive you should have kept it! I read an article about these rifles/pistols and although they were low priced weapons they were considered not too bad to have. They functioned well but was hard as [censored] to take apart and clean but using a can of spray cleaner one can clean it that way. Consider it a good survival tool.
Durango
I was hoping more people would chime in on this. I was thinking of getting a Hi-point a while back just for the fun of it. The 9mm pistols are always on sale around here for between $120 to $140. I certainly don't need another handgun (I think I have 12) but for the price I'm curious. It seems like 75% of the reviews I read are negative so I've held off on buying. I held one once and man is it ugly, looks like something someone built in their basement. But for a plinking gun it might be fun. The carbine looks like it'd be a blast to shoot.
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01rangerxl,
I beleive you should have kept it! I read an article about these rifles/pistols and although they were low priced weapons they were considered not too bad to have. They functioned well but was hard as [censored] to take apart and clean but using a can of spray cleaner one can clean it that way. Consider it a good survival tool.
Durango
It was a good gun for what it was. I don't think there's a better deal for a brand new non-.22 rifle out there, and you get a lifetime warranty. I don't get to shoot very often though, and it would have just collected dust once I got the Ruger.
Not sure about the pistols, but as you said the carbines are not really field strip friendly. It's the sort of situation where you need tools (a little "wrench" is supplied with new guns) and a clean workspace so you can lay the parts out. Also, the parts don't necessarily have a precise fit, so putting it back together is tricky too. There are videos on YouTube. I can take my Ruger apart in seconds though and everything goes right back in place when put back together. It's a more refined class of gun.
01rangerxl,
I beleive you should have kept it! I read an article about these rifles/pistols and although they were low priced weapons they were considered not too bad to have. They functioned well but was hard as [censored] to take apart and clean but using a can of spray cleaner one can clean it that way. Consider it a good survival tool.
Durango
It was a good gun for what it was. I don't think there's a better deal for a brand new non-.22 rifle out there, and you get a lifetime warranty. I don't get to shoot very often though, and it would have just collected dust once I got the Ruger.
Not sure about the pistols, but as you said the carbines are not really field strip friendly. It's the sort of situation where you need tools (a little "wrench" is supplied with new guns) and a clean workspace so you can lay the parts out. Also, the parts don't necessarily have a precise fit, so putting it back together is tricky too. There are videos on YouTube. I can take my Ruger apart in seconds though and everything goes right back in place when put back together. It's a more refined class of gun.
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Not sure about the pistols, but as you said the carbines are not really field strip friendly. ...
Pistols are not field strip friendly, either. I doubt many get field stripped. Mine never have.
The new .45 Carbine has been on my "get" list since it came out, but I always seem to get distracted by something else.
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Not sure about the pistols, but as you said the carbines are not really field strip friendly. ...
Pistols are not field strip friendly, either. I doubt many get field stripped. Mine never have.
The new .45 Carbine has been on my "get" list since it came out, but I always seem to get distracted by something else.
I have the 9mm and .45 pistols. I like them both quite a bit but the 9mm mags suck so bad and cause a lot of jams. A FREAKING TON of jams. The .45 is great and runs flawless. Love it.
I have probably 3000 rounds through my 9mm pistol. Don't recall a single malfunction. I just clean the bore and mop out what I can get to in the chamber every few hundred rounds. I refuse to strip it down and will probably just hose it down with some cleaner/dry lube soon. No complaints.
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I have probably 3000 rounds through my 9mm pistol. Don't recall a single malfunction. I just clean the bore and mop out what I can get to in the chamber every few hundred rounds. I refuse to strip it down and will probably just hose it down with some cleaner/dry lube soon. No complaints.
That is a bad habit to get into. I have personally seen a hi point pistol crack a slide. If you are not field stripping and cleaning your firearm to inspect it, you may miss clues like this that would tell you its no longer safe to use. I have caught a cracked frame on a Walther by field stripping to clean it. If I would have not torn it down it could very well have come apart firing it down the line.
I have probably 3000 rounds through my 9mm pistol. Don't recall a single malfunction. I just clean the bore and mop out what I can get to in the chamber every few hundred rounds. I refuse to strip it down and will probably just hose it down with some cleaner/dry lube soon. No complaints.
That is a bad habit to get into. I have personally seen a hi point pistol crack a slide. If you are not field stripping and cleaning your firearm to inspect it, you may miss clues like this that would tell you its no longer safe to use. I have caught a cracked frame on a Walther by field stripping to clean it. If I would have not torn it down it could very well have come apart firing it down the line.
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