Not debating it, but who was using it along with the ERG cooling?Technology that others were using long before Mazda.
Not debating it, but who was using it along with the ERG cooling?Technology that others were using long before Mazda.
It's still pushing @17psi, and I've not found the rpms to really matter as long as gearing supports the goal. Does fine from a roll. I think people get wrapped up in high rpm for no reason. That said, yes, they were super conservative. I'd like a performance model of it!It does work fine, mostly bcs. it is generally conservative engine. Emphasis is not on performance but on soccer moms (literally!). It is engine that delivers good torque between 2 and 4,000 rpms. It ain't BMW turbo after 4,000rpms that is for sure, nor Mazda's engineers wanted to to chase more performance oriented engines.
LOL, sure they do.It's still pushing @17psi, and I've not found the rpms to really matter as long as gearing supports the goal. Does fine from a roll. I think people get wrapped up in high rpm for no reason. That said, yes, they were super conservative. I'd like a performance model of it!
EGR. Cooler is standard on diesel engines, for a long time. Question is why they needed it?Not debating it, but who was using it along with the ERG cooling?
More boost. Higher compression. 16.7psi on 87 octane reliably with 10.5:1...EGR. Cooler is standard on diesel engines, for a long time. Question is why they needed it?
Explain to me the point of higher rpm, lol. I've owned 7500rpm and 6200rpm redlineing sports cars. They accelerated identically. VQ37 and LS1. What does rpm do for you?LOL, sure they do.
That seems never ending saga.I think Mazda is a very innovative company that makes great vehicles.....I just hope they've solved their issues with RUST....
LOL. No. It is emissions related. They need more efficient EGR. Skyactiv comes with other side of coin, and that is increased NOx. EGR needs to be more efficient. There is nothing unique in that approach, nothing special.More boost. Higher compression. 16.7psi on 87 octane reliably with 10.5:1...
This is turbo engine. Maybe it is news to you, but they operate differently.Explain to me the point of higher rpm, lol. I've owned 7500rpm and 6200rpm redlineing sports cars. They accelerated identically. VQ37 and LS1. What does rpm do for you?
Lol...yes. instead of dumping raw fuel to cool the cylinders, the egr gas being cooled and reinjected prevents them from wasting fuel like this, and allows the boost and compression they have, on 87 octane. Pretty ingenious. Results in great fuel economy.That seems never ending saga.
LOL. No.
Now I have read everything.Lol...yes. instead of dumping raw fuel to cool the cylinders, the egr gas being cooled and reinjected prevents them from wasting fuel like this, and allows the boost and compression they have, on 87 octane. Pretty ingenious. Results in great fuel economy.
Also, it doesnt matter if an engine has a turbo or not. Whether you get the power and torque high, or low in the rpm band doesnt matter one bit, so long as the gearing of the transmission and final drive compliment delivery of said power. there is no magic in producing power at 8k vs 5k.
It's a great suburban driver. Easy parking, good visibility, and decent MPGs (though they would be better if I could keep my foot out of it, but all that torque is just so much fun)! Squirting and out of traffic is also a joy because of it's power and sure-footed handling. The ride is quiet and smooth without sloppy handling. It feels quite "planted." I compared it to the CX-5, the Rav 4, Highlander, Ford Edge and Explorer. Oh, and on the highway at 80 MPH the tach is sitting at about 2500-2600 RPM...hello grampi, thanks for info on cx9. some questions if i may...
how is it as a suburban daily driver, i.e. ease of parking, visibility, mpg, scooting in/out of traffic?
what rpm does it run at highway speeds?
is it quiet and serene or “sporty?”
what did you cross-shop it against?
does it feel big and “boaty” on the road or “planted” as is the cx5?
thanks!
Great thread! I'm flying to Phoenix tomorrow to buy a 2021 CX-9 Signature. We couldn't find one in Las Vegas and the dealer in PHX made us a good deal. We've been looking at the CX-9 (and others in the class) for about 6 months and nearly pulled the trigger on a 2020 in July. I'm glad we waited because the new infotainment system is a pleasant upgrade with the higher-res camera view and wide-screen Apple Car Play. We were looking for something smaller and quieter than our last car (13 Honda Pilot) but wanted the flexibility of the 3rd row in a pinch. We drove the new Highlander (boring looking), the Telluride (admittedly awesome but too large), the Palisade (a face only a mother could love), the Ascent (better than I expected), and the Pilot. My wife narrowed it down to the Pilot and the CX-9. Compared to our venerable 2013 Pilot, the newest versions are way faster and have a super functional and durable interior, but they look too much like a minivan on the outside. The CX-9 is crazy nice inside, especially the Signature trim, and drives much smaller than it looks. It was remarkably quiet and comfortable on the road. And, that turbo motor is awesome - virtually no lag and gobs of thrust.
You will enjoy that CX9. Does yours have the second row Captains chairs?
I always wondered why more people didn't do this. It's not like plane tickets are impossible to afford, and you will save more money than you spend by far, depending on the situation as you mention.Great thread! I'm flying to Phoenix tomorrow to buy a 2021 CX-9 Signature. We couldn't find one in Las Vegas and the dealer in PHX made us a good deal. We've been looking at the CX-9 (and others in the class) for about 6 months and nearly pulled the trigger on a 2020 in July. I'm glad we waited because the new infotainment system is a pleasant upgrade with the higher-res camera view and wide-screen Apple Car Play. We were looking for something smaller and quieter than our last car (13 Honda Pilot) but wanted the flexibility of the 3rd row in a pinch. We drove the new Highlander (boring looking), the Telluride (admittedly awesome but too large), the Palisade (a face only a mother could love), the Ascent (better than I expected), and the Pilot. My wife narrowed it down to the Pilot and the CX-9. Compared to our venerable 2013 Pilot, the newest versions are way faster and have a super functional and durable interior, but they look too much like a minivan on the outside. The CX-9 is crazy nice inside, especially the Signature trim, and drives much smaller than it looks. It was remarkably quiet and comfortable on the road. And, that turbo motor is awesome - virtually no lag and gobs of thrust.
We found flights on Frontier for about $35 each. Flights are super cheap right now.I always wondered why more people didn't do this. It's not like plane tickets are impossible to afford, and you will save more money than you spend by far, depending on the situation as you mention.
I agree on the turbo engine. There is a reason it won a Ward's Top 10 mention.