Check out Chickanic on you tube videos, she did a review on this saw. She has an ope repair business in Arkansas.
Any Holzfforma/Neotec chainsaw owners?
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Yeah, watched that one. She has a great channel. She liked the saw too.
Here is a clip of my husky 390xp on some 11=12 inch pine longs. Skip chain( full chisel) with rakers filled down for more bite.
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I have a ms440 Farmertec (Holzfforma) kit saw that I assembled. Ive ran it for a couple years as my firewood saw, and it worked pretty well.
From most of the chat on the facebook groups, the MS660 and the 372xp seem to be the best in the Holzfforma line as far as quality and durability.
From most of the chat on the facebook groups, the MS660 and the 372xp seem to be the best in the Holzfforma line as far as quality and durability.
I had never really heard of Holzfforma before. Perusing their site, they have some wild stuff. A 105cc saw!! 30lbs!! Must be for a sawmill.
Their g660 saw looks interesting. But for a 92cc saw it weighs 23lbs for the power head. My 88cc saw weights 15.5 lbs for the power head.
Their g660 saw looks interesting. But for a 92cc saw it weighs 23lbs for the power head. My 88cc saw weights 15.5 lbs for the power head.
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I bought a Holzfforma G660 92cc saw. The shipping date was for April, but it came in last weekend. I removed the starter and chain cover and painted them for a more authentic Stihl look. It came out pretty good. I bought a new Stihl 32" bar and chain and fired her up yesterday.
This thing rips! It is truly a beast of a saw. The power head is approx 16.7 lbs and complete is around 22-24lbs. My Stihl dealer didn't have any Light bars in stock, but I'm a big guy and the standard bar will be fine. I'm going to break it in tomorrow morning on some ash.
Impressions overall is that this is a lot of saw for the money.
I bought a Holzfforma G660 92cc saw. The shipping date was for April, but it came in last weekend. I removed the starter and chain cover and painted them for a more authentic Stihl look. It came out pretty good. I bought a new Stihl 32" bar and chain and fired her up yesterday.
This thing rips! It is truly a beast of a saw. The power head is approx 16.7 lbs and complete is around 22-24lbs. My Stihl dealer didn't have any Light bars in stock, but I'm a big guy and the standard bar will be fine. I'm going to break it in tomorrow morning on some ash.
Impressions overall is that this is a lot of saw for the money.
Just needs a muffler mod and some tuning for a bit more power.
Just needs a muffler mod and some tuning for a bit more power.
I just ran a couple of tanks through her bucking some ash. So far, the carb has needed minimal adjustments and it's breaking in nicely. It's nice today (60-ish) and she fired up immediately.
Man, it drinks fuel. Seems more so than I remember with my old 066. Whatever - it's like a dirt bike in my hands.
I have the oiler maxed out and it seems good for the 32" bar. Not sure I would run anything bigger (I don't need anything bigger) but am curious how others with 36"+ make out.
I'm going to do some more road side red oak loggin tomorrow and the tree service should be here in two weeks to drop the 34" ash near the house where the garage will be going. I'll definitely have some good pics from that.
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My brother has a Holz along with his collection of various Husqvarna, Stihl and vintage stuff. The Holz is heavy and vibrates more than the name brand, but pretty decent for the cost. He likes tinkering with these things.
I bought the Holtz G660, G366, and G111. I was not impressed with their cylinders, so brand new, I pulled them off the G366 and G660 and ported the intake and exhaust mildly, but the main reason was that they didn't have a good chamfer at the corners of the intake and exhaust ports and the piston. It appears that they just bore and hone the cylinder with no chamfering, which is not good for longevity. I would recommend that if you buy one of their saws, to pull the cylinder and dremel a little chamfer on the intake and exhaust ports first thing before using the saw. I muffler modded all three saws, but due to the complexity of the G111 I did not mess with the cylinder. I did some cutting with all of them, but unfortunately the G660 and G111 got stolen, so I can't comment on their longevity. I recall that the coil on both the G660 and G366 went bad on me and I replaced them with aftermarket coils from another company. In shipping the G111 chain brake anti-kickback handle got broken, the company was quick to send me a new one. I had their 24" bar, it was okay, not sure I would use it professionally though. Their chains seem to stretch a little and are okay for homeowner use, but I'd recommend a better chain. The G660 has some good power, but I don't think it was as good as my Stihl 066 with a Metor piston and cylinder on it, sadly this saw was stolen too. I previously had a Stihl 036 saw and the G366 seems comparable in performance. Both the G660 and G366 leaked bar oil. Recently I've had some problems with the G366 carb, I'm not sure what the issue is, I suspect some dirt or wood got into it somehow, but I will have to try and clean it out. I was happy with the way all of the saw cut wood, the G111 is nice to have for the little stuff after the muffler mod, it was a little weak before opening up the muffler port, but after the muffler mod, it came to life.
The bearings and the base gasket is what you need to watch. I got a cheap chinese saw off amazon and run 25:1 in it like it calls for and it does my firewood duties just fine.
They call for 25:1 mix, because in the rest of the third world they are using regular 30w oil, instead of the good synthetic stuff we use here. You can use 50:1 with synthetic.
In that regards, I have been mixing 40:1 with BP premium and have never had a problem. I mainly used woodland pro synthetic oil. The bigger problem was thieves stealing my **** tools. I did have to pull the limit caps on the carb so I could adjust it richer at 40:1, I hate the limit tabs, that was some stupid engineering.
The answer is this.......buying a clone is a mixed bag. You will get some very excellent ones, and some absolute turds. The good news is you should know pretty soon if you are buying them to use & put to work.
I use mine for the emergency type of application when a tree will fall and I need something reliable. So I tend to not buy them unless I want an experiment. If you are a firewood guy I see a lot of value in them. If you are in a line of business where you need rock solid reliablity and dont want to be wrenching / adjusting, maybe take a pass on them.
Also, trimmers, blowers, pumps, etc can get away with any two stroke oil at 32:1 / 40:1 / 50:1. I am a firm beleiver that the saws genuinley need more oil. 40:1 is pretty safe. 50:1 really does not give my much comfort should a slight mixing error occur or you overwork it.
I use mine for the emergency type of application when a tree will fall and I need something reliable. So I tend to not buy them unless I want an experiment. If you are a firewood guy I see a lot of value in them. If you are in a line of business where you need rock solid reliablity and dont want to be wrenching / adjusting, maybe take a pass on them.
Also, trimmers, blowers, pumps, etc can get away with any two stroke oil at 32:1 / 40:1 / 50:1. I am a firm beleiver that the saws genuinley need more oil. 40:1 is pretty safe. 50:1 really does not give my much comfort should a slight mixing error occur or you overwork it.
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