Another technological mess on a new car.

[Kurtatron]

Some of you seem to have no reservations or second thought about how cars are becoming ever more complicated. You mock us luddites for being anti this or anti that. Well here’s another case of how much all this tech in new cars sucks.



I wish they’d make a simple 2000s car again. The rest of you can sell your souls for creature comforts. I’ll keep my old cars running as long as it’s legal.

 

[dishdude]

Not a very conclusive report.

 

[Skippy722]

My base model 2014 Challenger R/T is about as advanced of a vehicle as I want, but I'm sure there's some proprietary software nonsense, but it exists as it left the factory and will never see the dealership again for anything.

The Expedition has all the fancy stuff including the ability to update via wifi but I refuse to even consider connecting it to my wifi so it can. My luck it'll brick itself during an update.

 

[CKN]

Kumbaya for the beater boys......

 

[grasscutter]

The best thing to do is find an older car that was made simple and restore it to perfection.

There used to be shops in Las Vegas where an old car enters the building on one end and then exits the building on the other end brand new.

 

[4wd]

If AI was used honestly - one could glean some real data on failures - that day is not here - so oblique opinions will float out there - and confirmation bias will mate with them …

 

[grasscutter]

Cars are so complicated now that they are no longer reliable.

We've gone from planned obsolescence to over complication. Both will kill reliability.

I don't place all of the blame on the manufacturers. I place most of the blame on regulatory agencies.

 

[CKN]

The best thing to do is find an older car that was made simple and restore it to perfection.

There used to be shops in Las Vegas where an old car enters the building on one end and then exits the building on the other end brand new.

And how old would you like that to be?
This is going to be fun!

 

[grasscutter]

And how old would you like that to be?
This is going to be fun!

A perfect example is the GM 3800 V6. As soon as you do the upgraded upper intake manifold plenum and the upgraded lower intake manifold gaskets with the steel shims, you've got yourself a trouble free 400,000 mile car.

 

[Pew]

Some days I roll out my wagon and horse too.

 

[4wd]

Cars are so complicated now that they are no longer reliable.

We've gone from planned obsolescence to over complication. Both will kill reliability.

I don't place all of the blame on the manufacturers. I place most of the blame on regulatory agencies.

I think it’s a combination of regulations and manufacturing efficiency. Take an all electric controlled transmission - one day the owner finds out the vehicle can’t be taken out of park to be towed … So we see more and more large flatbed wreckers that charge big money - and drag them with help from Dawn detergent …