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So we shouldn't let people own Corvettes, Ferrari, Lambo, or any other ultra expensive car. C'mon man....
What do they have to do with anything? Those aren't common cars being discussed.
I'm referring to an EV vs. an ICE vehicle of comparable specs and design.
If you want to discuss high performance ICE vehicles, this isn't the thread for it.
 
You understand this is the EV section, right? Respectfully, why do you spend so much time here if you could care less about EVs?
Your actions; even your avatar, etc would say you care a lot about EVs. Actions speak louder than words.

There is a reason some EV owners are rabid about their cars, just like Porsches, Vettes, you name it. They like them.
I can't speak for him but: With titles like: Hertz is selling Tesla's cheap, or Musk says Tesla dug their own grave, or Drape your EV in a fire blanket if you park it in your garage, etc, etc, it catches my eye. Even though I don't like them, and won't own one I read about them, and learn. I love to learn, even about things I don't like, so I can converse about the topic with friends or family. You see I love cars, and love to talk with fellow enthusiasts, like my doctor who sold his Tesla and went back to ICE. We had a great conversation a while back. I learned a ton about EV's by reading, granted I would not join an EV forum!

There are certain people in high places I don't like either but if they say or do something that might impact me I read or watch the segment. Now if the EV section was at the bottom of the forum, or in "General And Off Topic" and not in the position it's in, it wouldn't catch my attention as much, and I'd participate less in it. I'm sure that would be the same for other members too.
 
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I can't speak for him but: With titles like: Hertz is selling Tesla's cheap, or Musk says Tesla dug their own grave, or Drape your EV in a fire blanket if you park it in your garage, etc, etc, it catches my eye. Even though I don't like them, and won't own one I read about them, and learn. I love to learn, even about things I don't like, so I can converse about the topic with friends or family. You see I love cars, and love to talk with fellow enthusiasts, like my doctor who sold his Tesla and went back to ICE. We had a great conversation a while back. I learned a ton about EV's by reading, granted I would not join an EV forum!

There are certain people in high places I don't like either but if they say or do something that might impact me I read or watch the segment. Now if the EV section was at the bottom of the forum, and not in the position it's in, it wouldn't catch my attention as much, and I'd participate less in it. I'm sure that would be the same for other members too.
Yep. Clickbait works or it wouldn't exist.
My favorite is "Musk says Tesla dug its own grave" because the thread is far different from his intention; it totally misses Musk's point. Read about it, if you wish.
Hertz cycles through cars all the time. I never understood Hertz's business case for EV, Teslas especially as there was no volume discount, to start with. Teslas operate differently; depending on the driver this can be frustrating or even dangerous.
"Drape your EV in a blanket" is pure silliness.

I like your point about learning. I will say this, as an owner for over 5 years much of what is posted is not like my experience. Why are so many posters "one way or the other"? It is not Tesla against the world. There is room for lotsa cars. If you don't like whatever, don't buy one. The "LOL" and childish ridicule only shows one has lost the ability to communicate effectively. Not to mention personal attacks because someone doesn't like the car someone else drives.
 
Not really! Personally I couldn't care less about ev's, I will never own one but the reason for the negativity is quite simple, you and a few others are such rabid ev fans and the rhetoric amounts to nothing more than ball busting. That is why I say a separate ev forum is probably better for you guys then you can blow smoke up each others backside all day with no unwanted comments.
I do not go to a Tesla forum and comment, I don't even look at it or go to a BMW forum and bust balls about how great some other car is.
One subforum and it's all that? "rabid"..."rhetoric"..."ball busting"....any other hyperbole to add? Come on man. At least half of the threads posted on here are anti-EV. You and some other guys seem to delight in posting as much anti-EV content as you/they possibly can.

There's lots of EV only forums. Problem is they are full of anti-EV trolls on one hand, and on the other hand breathless EV advocates. It's super tiresome. I'd like to think we're better than that here. I like EVs, but I do try to be a realist, they are not for everone. Nobody should think about replacing their diesel HD truck with an EV, for example, if they tow a 5th wheel.
 
There is room for lotsa cars. If you don't like whatever, don't buy one. The "LOL" and childish ridicule only shows one has lost the ability to communicate effectively. Not to mention personal attacks because someone doesn't like the car someone else drives.
I agree with your other comments. A few things here to respond to. LOL has meaning, it can be used in place of text that could get someone booted from the forum, or because something is genuinely funny. There are some comments, in these threads that are comical. As far as room for lotsa cars, if the powers that be get their way it will be lotsa of electric cars, and some of us see that writing on the wall and are very unhappy about that. I'd love to really elaborate, but it's best I don't here.
 
I agree with your other comments. A few things here to respond to. LOL has meaning, it can be used in place of text that could get someone booted from the forum, or because something is genuinely funny. There are some comments, in these threads that are comical. As far as room for lotsa cars, if the powers that be get their way it will be lotsa of electric cars, and some of us see that writing on the wall and are very unhappy about that. I'd love to really elaborate, but it's best I don't here.
LOL is perfect for funny stuff, not so much as an insult or failure to admit one might be wrong. Or to your good point, instead of learning something.
EVs in themselves do not control mandates so hating on them for that makes no sense. It's another topic altogether. Heck, even Elon, whose company has benefited from tax credits is against mandates and subsidies.
 
What do they have to do with anything? Those aren't common cars being discussed.
I'm referring to an EV vs. an ICE vehicle of comparable specs and design.
If you want to discuss high performance ICE vehicles, this isn't the thread for it.
He proclaimed EV's whether an actual accident or fire increase the insurance risk & therefore cost for all of us paying premiums. As if any ultra expensive and unrepairable vehicle doesn't already do this. I don't see your issue.
 
LOL is perfect for funny stuff, not so much as an insult or failure to admit one might be wrong. Or to your good point, instead of learning something.
EVs in themselves do not control mandates so hating on them for that makes no sense. It's another topic altogether. Heck, even Elon, whose company has benefited from tax credits is against mandates and subsidies.
Like I said before it's best I don't elaborate, it will take us into politics, administrations, and roads I best not travel here.
 
When was the last time an OEM told you not to park your ICE car in your garage because it might catch on fire.

To a degree, the hysteria was self inflicted.
Do you want me to pull up that list of letters? Ford, Hyundai, and Dodge have all done this for fire recalls that I know off the top of my head.

EV manufacturers don’t blanket say this, but you’ll get this if there’s an issue they’re investigating just as the above mentioned recalls.
 
Not really! Personally I couldn't care less about ev's, I will never own one but the reason for the negativity is quite simple, you and a few others are such rabid ev fans and the rhetoric amounts to nothing more than ball busting. That is why I say a separate ev forum is probably better for you guys then you can blow smoke up each others backside all day with no unwanted comments.
I do not go to a Tesla forum and comment, I don't even look at it or go to a BMW forum and bust balls about how great some other car is.
No, it's because oil companies are quietly pushing anti-EV concepts because of revenue loss. It is because mechanics are rabidly against EV's because of revenue loss. It's because dealers are losing money on service. It's because people are anti-American and hate American success (Tesla) and want a Globalist situation. It's because foreign wars are going to lose some flavor if gas prices can't be tied to them and oil. It's because Oil and the Petrodollar are a "thing". There are a TON of reasons we are seeing anti-EV rhetoric. 99% of it is because of the huge push from all of the above, and more, to indoctrinate people against them. I see people bashing EV's that literally have never driven or owned one. They come from a place of huge ignorance, but they've slurped up their propaganda and are ready to tar and feather those evil futuristic machines here to take their jobs!
 
ICE stuff has been going on for years…crazy stuff. Heck, even easy to steal now… (Thanks Kia!)

EVs still are new and need more bugs worked out anyways. Doesn’t matter, as EV and ICE are going to have to love in harmony for quite a while…..

Gotta love all the “hype” over this stuff……
 
No, it's because oil companies are quietly pushing anti-EV concepts because of revenue loss. It is because mechanics are rabidly against EV's because of revenue loss. It's because dealers are losing money on service. It's because people are anti-American and hate American success (Tesla) and want a Globalist situation. It's because foreign wars are going to lose some flavor if gas prices can't be tied to them and oil. It's because Oil and the Petrodollar are a "thing". There are a TON of reasons we are seeing anti-EV rhetoric. 99% of it is because of the huge push from all of the above, and more, to indoctrinate people against them. I see people bashing EV's that literally have never driven or owned one. They come from a place of huge ignorance, but they've slurped up their propaganda and are ready to tar and feather those evil futuristic machines here to take their jobs!
Interesting and I see the opposite. Calling people Anti-American because they don't like Tesla or EVs, you're clueless. My son did over 16 years in the USN and was in Afghanistan not one but three times for this country, along with four other deployments. Then there's my Father, and FIL who was awarded a WWII Purple Heart. We're proud Americans!!!! In fact our Village honored my son, and gave us an award for our patriotism and how we proudly fly the US flag. What might be anti-American is how the EV agenda is being pushed, and the ICE vehicle is being threatened. Oh and stupid things like pizza ovens, and natural gas heat, etc. So be careful painting with such a broad brush. I won't get into indoctrination.
 
Anyone with an axe to grind against EVs would jump at the chance to do so. Just like I wouldn't stop from reminding people that not all Toyotas or Hondas are as infallible as they claim to be. Doesn't stop others from protesting how wrong I am.
True - Lots of folks just stay clear of the topic - I think EV’s are great vehicles for somebody else - Some think I’m crazy for having a JLU for a DD … That’s fine.
Most still get to pick and choose and perhaps feel that is what is threatened - I don’t …
 
Interesting and I see the opposite. Calling people Anti-American because they don't like Tesla or EVs, you're clueless. My son did over 16 years in the USN and was in Afghanistan not one but three times for this country, along with four other deployments. Then there's my Father, and FIL who was awarded a WWII Purple Heart. We're proud Americans!!!! In fact our Village honored my son, and gave us an award for our patriotism and how we proudly fly the US flag. What might be anti-American is how the EV agenda is being pushed, and the ICE vehicle is being threatened. Oh and stupid things like pizza ovens, and natural gas heat, etc. So be careful painting with such a broad brush. I won't get into indoctrination.
I understand, my uncle was a medic in Vietnam. I'm a patriot, too.
 
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