Another American beheaded in Iraq......

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But it's important that we understand the terrorists and not be judgemental. Maybe they need a hug. I wonder what we did to deserve their anger?

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Better idea. Flatten Falujah and any shrine, mosque, falafel cart, camel dealership or whatever else these wacko diaperheads hide behind. Once we get Al Sadr and Zarquawi we can throw them in a wood chipper on live TV.

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These people have been doing this type of thing for 2000 years. We the United States can not go this alone. We need some allies to step up and provide long term help. As strong a president as we have his plan to go this alone without much help has really left us in the hole.
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Yes, I agree we can't go it alone? Any way you know of to help convince the cheese eating surrender monkeys? Can we afford to wait?

Anyhow, a whole group needs to be eliminated. Now.
 
Simple solution:

We take Saddam, apologize to him profusely for killing his sons and all the personal inconvenience to him, put him back in charge, and the place will quiet down in 3 months.
 
Past history shows us that an invading country has a hard time in gaining toatal control over the country. Look at the German's in ww2 and the Russian's in Afganistan. Hitler's SS was going house to house in Russia which worked for a while. But in the end the home team ran them back to Berlin. We can not compare ourselves to Germany but we are in dutch in Iraq. These outsiders are well financed by others and are provided technology by who we think is our allies. Vodka anyone? The only way to get this done is to increase our ground forces and get boots from other countries also. We need more firepower and more convert operations to rid these donkey's back sides of Iraq. I am finished.
 
Have we captured or killed any one of the scumbags thats responsible for beheading the innocent civilians the past year? What the XXXX is with the CIA?
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With all the resources at our disposal we still can't capture and eliminate these bastards!
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Because they are guerilla fighters in their own country and everybody would die for their country. History says Iraqnam will eventually win. And yes we are there with you.
 
Relax,

Rest assured be it through conventional operations or hush-hush black operations the United States will kill 20-30x that of the OPFOR.

Many people always knock Isreal rather unfairly for taking 5 people for every 1 non-combatant lost.

The US is much more ruthless and rightfully so.

Remember how Nixon blitzed Hanoi with a fleet of B-52's...and see how fast they came back to the negotiating table.

The jehadis are living on borrowed time, the barbabrians will not win this war of civilizations.

Like WWII we are the good guys do not forget that.
 
If you surf blog sites written by soldiers or hear them interviewed a common thread is something like
"you don't hear about all the things that are going well".

Here are a few I read.
http://www.sgthook.com/
http://www.lt-smash.us/
http://www.blackfive.net/

All have links to other Milblogs. They don't seem to subscribe to the doom & gloom that the media and others do.

Here is an article from http://www.lt-smash.us/.
PAY ATTENTION TO THE LAST PARAGRAPH.
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“Doom & Gloom about Iraq’s future... I don’t see it from where I’m sitting.”

[For those of you who haven’t gotten my “Thoughts” before, I’m a Major in the USMC on the Multi-National Corps staff in Baghdad. The analysts and pundits who don’t see what I see on a daily basis, in my opinion, have very little credibility to talk about the situation – especially if they have yet to set foot in Iraq. Everything Americans believe about Iraq is simply perception filtered through one’s latent prejudices until you are face-to-face with reality. If you haven’t seen, or don’t remember, the John Wayne movie, The Green Berets, you should watch it this weekend. Pay special attention to the character of the reporter, Mr. Beckwith. His experience is directly related to the situation here. You’ll have a different perspective on Iraq after the movie is over.]

The US media is abuzz today with the news of an intelligence report that is very negative about the prospects for Iraq’s future. CNN’s website says, “[The] National Intelligence Estimate was sent to the White House in July with a classified warning predicting the best case for Iraq was ‘tenuous stability’ and the worst case was civil war.” That report, along with the car bombings and kidnappings in Baghdad in the past couple days are being portrayed in the media as more proof of absolute chaos and the intransigence of the insurgency.

From where I sit, at the Operational Headquarters in Baghdad, that just isn’t the case. Let’s lay out some background, first about the “National Intelligence Estimate.” The most glaring issue with its relevance is the fact that it was delivered to the White House in July. That means that the information that was used to derive the intelligence was gathered in the Spring – in the immediate aftermath of the April battle for Fallujah, and other events. The report doesn’t cover what has happened in July or August, let alone September.

The naysayers will point to the recent battles in Najaf and draw parallels between that and what happened in Fallujah in April. They aren’t even close. The bad guys did us a HUGE favor by gathering together in one place and trying to make a stand. It allowed us to focus on them and defeat them. Make no mistake, Al Sadr’s troops were thoroughly smashed. The estimated enemy killed in action is huge. Before the battles, the residents of the city were afraid to walk the streets. Al Sadr’s enforcers would seize people and bring them to his Islamic court where sentence was passed for religious or other violations. Long before the battles people were looking for their lost loved ones who had been taken to “court” and never seen again. Now Najafians can and do walk their streets in safety. Commerce has returned and the city is being rebuilt. Iraqi security forces and US troops are welcomed and smiled upon. That city was liberated again. It was not like Fallujah – the bad guys lost and are in hiding or dead.

You may not have even heard about the city of Samarra. Two weeks ago, that Sunni Triangle city was a “No-go” area for US troops. But guess what? The locals got sick of living in fear from the insurgents and foreign fighters that were there and let them know they weren’t welcome. They stopped hosting them in their houses and the mayor of the town brokered a deal with the US commander to return Iraqi government sovereignty to the city without a fight. The people saw what was on the horizon and decided they didn’t want their city looking like Fallujah in April or Najaf in August.

Boom, boom, just like that two major “hot spots” cool down in rapid succession. Does that mean that those towns are completely pacified? No. What it does mean is that we are learning how to do this the right way. The US commander in Samarra saw an opportunity and took it – probably the biggest victory of his military career and nary a shot was fired in anger. Things will still happen in those cities, and you can be sure that the bad guys really want to take them back. Those achievements, more than anything else in my opinion, account for the surge in violence in recent days – especially the violence directed at Iraqis by the insurgents. Both in Najaf and Samarra ordinary people stepped out and took sides with the Iraqi government against the insurgents, and the bad guys are hopping mad. They are trying to instill fear once again. The worst thing we could do now is pull back and let that scum back into people’s homes and lives.

So, you may hear analysts and prognosticators on CNN, ABC and the like in the next few days talking about how bleak the situation is here in Iraq, but from where I sit, it’s looking significantly better now than when I got here. The momentum is moving in our favor, and all Americans need to know that, so please, please, pass this on to those who care and will pass it on to others. It is very demoralizing for us here in uniform to read & hear such negativity in our press. It is fodder for our enemies to use against us and against the vast majority of Iraqis who want their new government to succeed. It causes the American public to start thinking about the acceptability of “cutting our losses” and pulling out, which would be devastating for Iraq for generations to come, and Muslim militants would claim a huge victory, causing us to have to continue to fight them elsewhere (remember, in war “Away” games are always preferable to “Home” games). Reports like that also cause Iraqis begin to fear that we will pull out before we finish the job, and thus less willing to openly support their interim government and US/Coalition activities. We are realizing significant progress here – not propaganda progress, but real strides are being made. It’s terrible to see our national morale, and support for what we’re doing here, jeopardized by sensationalized stories hyped by media giants whose #1 priority is advertising income followed closely by their political agenda; getting the story straight falls much further down on their priority scale, as Dan Rather and CBS News have so aptly demonstrated in the last week.
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Like anything you have to take it with a grain of salt just in case the article was really written by some gunstore commando but the Milblogs are as good a source as any. The NY Times, BBC and CBS never make stuff up do they?

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Will agree until you are there you know what is...Will agree the media influences...makes us believe and that is a powerful emotion...support our troops
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Odds are our military knows where the are. The troops probably can't get to them because of the heavy population of the area ratting them out. If it is possible. Send Delta teams in and get them in but, at the same time send in a CIA strike teams to poison the water, air, etc... Its much cheaper than a nuke. Wouldn't have the worry of an army trooper spilling the beans on the operation to the media at a later date. The CIA is held to stricter secrecy than the military. Just my thought!
 
Atrocities at Abu Ghraib and the other prison that was just announced are stated by the terrorista as the reason for the beheading. The idiots who participated should get a long stretch on the possibility they were partly responsible for another Americans death. Unfortunately the Briton and 2nd American are probably gonners too. What a world I have brought my young daughter into.
 
Much of this terrible activity is done for the publicity that it generates. The hostage takers try to get support for their cause and then shock the world with their brutal activity.

Personally I'd like to see the media stop publishing these threats and let the military deal with the terrorists in their own way. I don't understand why we're having such problems pin pointing the locations of these activities or even closing in on the internet sites that publish the news in advance of any official media reporting.

This non-sense has to stop. It makes me ashamed of the human race.
 
FowVay,
I agree.

New coverage should be limited to "x number taken, these are the damands....we will not negotiate."

Later there should be a one liner article about their fate if/when it is followed through.

If you are not willing to negotiate (and you can't), then you can't afford to tell the world that Fred Nerk was the bloke who invented the cure for the common cold, and adopted 23 7/8 kids from a poor background.

This gives the terrorists an actual human target, and the people witnessing an emotive link.

It's the same reason that you don't show masses of coffins coming back from abroad.
 
Sprintman, I'll respectfully disagree with you on the fact that these beheadings were a reponse to the prison abuses. These animals have a thirst for blood, anyone who can see past their nose will realize this.

The beheadings should strengthen our resolve and that message should be sent as clearly as possible.
 
Met a guy today, who is volunteering to join ASAP because the beheadings. I wished him God speed.

We simply cannot turn and run. We need to find this sick human. We will not be shaken. He will die. I'm sure we have one or two leads......
 
Steve, I understand your post. Again, anyone who can't see through their cr@p is not opening their eyes.

A free society has a difficult road to hoe. We want to be transparent in our reporting and investigation, yet we would have our enemies use our transparency against us.
 
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