AMSOIL Signature Series MV 100 % synthetic. red cap vs blue (fuel efficient)

[stenerson]

I've decided to go for broke and change over to Amsoil SS ATF. What's up with this blue bottle one. Fuel Efficient. Any supposed trade offs to using this vs the red cap. I get suspicious when I read fuel efficient. Makes me suspect there might be a trade off. Both seem to be spec'd for the same vehicles. Just curious before I push the buy now button.

 

[ARB1977]

What is MV? I’ve used Amsoil SS blue cap ATF in both WS and DW1 spec transmissions. One Toyota and Honda with great results.

 

[Brian123]

I've decided to go for broke and change over to Amsoil SS ATF. What's up with this blue bottle one. Fuel Efficient. Any supposed trade offs to using this vs the red cap. I get suspicious when I read fuel efficient. Makes me suspect there might be a trade off. Both see to be spec'd for the same vehicles. Just curious before I push the buy now button.

I have never seen a Transmission specked for both Fluids from Amsoil, meaning the regular red 1 and the Blue 1
What Vehicle is this 4?

 

[stenerson]

What is MV? I’ve used Amsoil SS blue cap ATF in both WS and DW1 spec transmissions. One Toyota and Honda with great results.

Multi-Vehicle.

 

[stenerson]

I have never seen a Transmission specked for both Fluids from Amsoil, meaning the regular red 1 and the Blue 1
What Vehicle is this 4?

I plan to use it on my 2018 Ram 1500 8speed zf tranny. According to the amsoil site both qualify for my transmission.

 

[CDX825]

The blue cap is a low viscosity fluid equivalent to Mercon LV or Dex 6. The red cap is the older regular viscosity atf like Mercon or Dexron.

 

[The Critic]

I plan to use it on my 2018 Ram 1500 8speed zf tranny. According to the amsoil site both qualify for my transmission.

Not a good idea. Stay with the ZF fluid.

 

[Brian123]

I plan to use it on my 2018 Ram 1500 8speed zf tranny. According to the amsoil site both qualify for my transmission.

You might want to PM Pablo here; something is off with the Amsoil Website.

 

[JavierH19]

People use the red bottle valvoline atf in zf8's without issue. I don't think amsoil would be bad for it.

 

[MolaKule]

The blue cap is a low viscosity fluid equivalent to Mercon LV or Dex 6. The red cap is the older regular viscosity atf like Mercon or Dexron.

This, because there are two versions available.

 

[stenerson]

This, because there are two versions available.

Thanks. I wonder which one is closer to matching zf viscosity.

 

[ARB1977]

Multi-Vehicle.

Lol. I’m an idot.

 

[ARB1977]

Thanks. I wonder which one is closer to matching zf viscosity.

Do both red and blue caps ZF rated? I know I can’t use red cap in either vehicles. You can always enter your vehicle information on Amsoils site and it should tell you what you need.

 

[Pablo]

I've decided to go for broke and change over to Amsoil SS ATF. What's up with this blue bottle one. Fuel Efficient. Any supposed trade offs to using this vs the red cap. I get suspicious when I read fuel efficient. Makes me suspect there might be a trade off. Both seem to be spec'd for the same vehicles. Just curious before I push the buy now button.

You want the ATL and this is what is called out.

https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-sig...c-automatic-transmission-fluid-atl/?zo=515729

 

[Pablo]

You might want to PM Pablo here; something is off with the Amsoil Website.

Nothing wrong with the site. Thanks

 

[stenerson]

You want the ATL and this is what is called out.

https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-sig...c-automatic-transmission-fluid-atl/?zo=515729

Thanks Pablo. I just changed out to Amsoil on my front Diff and transfer case. .. Just got the tranny job left before winter hits.

 

[ekalb]

@Pablo I noticed for Jeep ZF9 transmissions you call out two options for ATF fluid but for my 2019 Honda Odyssey with the ZF9 there are no recommendations. Are they not basically the same transmission?

 

[kschachn]

The blue cap is a low viscosity fluid equivalent to Mercon LV or Dex 6. The red cap is the older regular viscosity atf like Mercon or Dexron.

It's really not that important. Older specifications such as DEXRON-III required a higher starting viscosity but that was because it also allowed a greater viscosity degradation due to mechanical shear. Later DEXRON-VI started off with a lower initial viscosity but the shear stability is increased, so the reality is that the fluids ended up more or less in the same range after a period of use. People often get hung up on the notion that -VI fluid was thinner and to be avoided when the reality is that in every aspect it is a superior fluid.

If Amsoil says either one will work then either one will work - and will be fine.

 

[Pablo]

@Pablo I noticed for Jeep ZF9 transmissions you call out two options for ATF fluid but for my 2019 Honda Odyssey with the ZF9 there are no recommendations. Are they not basically the same transmission?

What year Jeep? What models? Engines? Examples?

I don't know if the transmissions are identical.

Sometimes Amsoil has not added a recommendation because it has not been fully evaluated.

 

[ekalb]

What year Jeep? What models? Engines? Examples?

I don't know if the transmissions are identical.

Sometimes Amsoil has not added a recommendation because it has not been fully evaluated.

I was comparing 2019 Jeep CHEROKEE and 2019 Honda Odyssey EX which both have the ZF 9 speed transmission.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_9HP_transmission