This is what I understood your asking. In this report when I was testing other oils for the Audi, it was on there, also.
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I may switch the pilot back to SS 0W20. I’ve ran that oil to 15% OLM 5500-6500 miles in the Pilot 95% of its life.
The higher Mo value is because of the machine used for the elemental analysis. RDE can see a broader range than ICP in terms of size.
LSJr responded to my question related to Ti missing. I can't say I'm happy with his answer. I didn't realize paying twice as much for the premium analysis (which includes particle count) was going to mean something else was going to be deleted from the results, in this case, Ti.
"No, we still test for Titanium. In fact, we’ve always tested for more elements than we show on the report. Many of them are rarely seen in automotive engine applications (such as Silver), so they are not included in the report so as to not create confusion. I review every piece of data from the lab as it is loaded into the report template, so I’m basing the condition of the report on all of the data. However, we only present the relevant data.
Regarding the Titanium being absent from the Premium Analysis report, that is because we have to delete something from the report to add the particle count results (the page is only so large), so we choose to remove Titanium because it is rarely found as an actual wear metal. When we do see it, the source is typically from an additive in the oil."
Does anybody know of an analysis company (not BS or OA) that shows most elements and doesn't delete any from one sample to the next?
Why aren't you considering Oil Analyzers?
I had an issue with some virgin samples I sent to them for analysis. I tried getting it corrected, but it never was. I even had Amsoil tech support work with them, but nothing changed.
Also, and I've mentioned this in a different thread, I'm getting old and my handwriting is pretty shaky. Their forms are small and I can't legibly fill them out, so had to get my wife to do so. Speediagnostix uses Google forms, so I can type all the related sample data. I realize this may be seen as lunacy, but it's my reality.
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When I view my reports online I’m amazed at all of the information that is available there, it shows more things than the printed reports that don’t quite have enough room to fit everything on. They list a few things that I don’t see from other labs, such as antimony and vanadium
Thank you. I've looked around their website and they don't seem to be oriented toward individuals. Is it necessary to have a business account, or just fill out the form/contact info and see what they have to say?
Patman
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I’m not sure about the US location but up here in Canada they do a good amount of business with individual car owners. They even let us drop off the samples directly in the back entrance too. I was lucky enough that the lab was located 5 minutes away from my old job where I worked for 14 years before I retired
Not very confidence inspiring. Time to move on IMO.
I'll try to get hold of Wearcheck tomorrow. I watched a couple of their videos. They have an app (I hate downloading apps to my phone), but they also have a web-based way to submit sample data.
So does OA. After the initial submission for a vehicle (which must be written out on the slip), future submissions can be done almost entirely electronically using the Sample Submission tab.
I was't aware. After they messed up the first three virgin samples I sent and never corrected, I knew I wouldn't try them again, so never looked any deeper.
In all fairness to OA, BS, and SD, they handle large amounts of samples, some more than others, at a price point of roughly $30-$60. Any more than a few minutes per sample, they're losing money. As a consumer, that's their problem, not mine. They priced their service and said what it will provide. If it doesn't, my only choice is to find another company providing the service at an acceptable level.
Yeah, OAI is a bit different and it took me a few tries to get a hang of how things work, but now that I'm there, I'm sticking with them. IMO the most consistent used and virgin oil analysis results. Also, best bang for the buck. TBN, GC, and oxidation included in the ~$40 cost. And very quick turnaround times.
Their customer service is not too great, as you alluded to. But once you figure out how they work, you can pretty much avoid having to deal with their customer support.
I guess I need to buy extra sample containers off Amazon to capture extra used oil when results aren't as expected, samples are lost, etc. I may not have the patience to figure it out, losing "valuable data" until I do.
Changing my oil used to be so much easier when I didn't know about UOAs, additive packages, etc. I used to buy the best Amsoil had to offer and didn't know about all this other stuff I was "missing".
Along that line, what’s the importance of the element titanium? If you know the number what does it mean? How much is good, better or best? And what about other elements? Do they count too in relationship to the reading for titanium?
Ti isn't the real issue for me. It's the idea you're paying for an analysis, especially premium, and items being deleted from the standard output to make room for something else.
But then again, I hadn't even noticed it until it was pointed out to me.
Really? Not showing Titanium is a deal breaker for an OA? I must be missing something here.
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