Here is some info on an Ecoboost engine that specs a 5w-30 but was running a 0w-20.
Ford Ecoboost 2.0 using 0w-20 AMSOIL OE
Ford Ecoboost 2.0 using 0w-20 AMSOIL OE
AMSOIL OE 0w-20 Ecoboost 2.0 3,500 miles
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Originally Posted By: CT8
What are we looking at?
It looks like an advertisement of some sort.
What are we looking at?
It looks like an advertisement of some sort.
Yes, more info please.
Can't bring that image up on phone...subscribed to check later.
This should be interesting.
Can't bring that image up on phone...subscribed to check later.
This should be interesting.
Hard to tell the photo is one twentieth the size it needs to be.
I had to save the picture and then open it to get it larger. I'll see if I can post a better picture or link.
So is this the first UOA we are seeing of the Valvoline Restore oil in the second from left column?
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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Hard to tell, but is the iron 50 PPM?
Nope, it's 10, aluminum is 2, tin is 1 and all other wear metals are zero.
Hard to tell, but is the iron 50 PPM?
Nope, it's 10, aluminum is 2, tin is 1 and all other wear metals are zero.
Its barely readable when you use the Zoom-in on the browser, but I see the 10 ppm iron in 3,500 miles. Problem is, you've had 13 ppm iron running a 10,000 mile using the Valvoline Premium Blue Restore 10w30.
Therefore, I would conclude the 0w20 weight is not a good idea to use. A dexos1 Gen2 5w30 is the prescription, even 0w30 M1 AFE would work well here.
Nice to see a UOA on Valvoline Premium Blue Restore 10w30, and someone using it at 100k miles like I thought would be good. That stuff has POE and other cleaners in there to scrub the ringlands as best as possible. It might help. Good move!
Therefore, I would conclude the 0w20 weight is not a good idea to use. A dexos1 Gen2 5w30 is the prescription, even 0w30 M1 AFE would work well here.
Nice to see a UOA on Valvoline Premium Blue Restore 10w30, and someone using it at 100k miles like I thought would be good. That stuff has POE and other cleaners in there to scrub the ringlands as best as possible. It might help. Good move!
More info on this UOA per Mr. Dyson,
"The iron like most engine wear is not linear, and this engine has been and is being treated for Ecoboost carbon issues thus the RESTORE run prior to the new OE 0w20. Some of the cleaning efforts would naturally cast a lever to higher iron wear among others. Note the FTIR work that DysonAnalysis does exclusively shows the best combustion dynamic ever, including RESTORE 10w30 which is really a 0w35 SAE grade if one is specific, by design.
CUMMINS Valvoline Premium Blue RESTORE is more synthetic than anything on the market and since I lead development of it at Cummins R&D group with Valvoline I can't speak to its chemistry but its effective and durable for sure!
I have run many different 0w20 versions of synthetics with good results when fuels dilute and carbon deposits in valves and pistons tops and rings is controlled. This engine does great with ~ 9 cSt @ 100C lubricants with a strong molecular stability in other words Ford knows that fuels dilute of the design will place you there with lower quality lubes, therefore using a more stable lubricant is do-able with bottle grades lower than 5w30.
Engines care about dynamic viscosity. Hello to all my friends from years ago at BITOG that I haven't connected to!
Terry
"The iron like most engine wear is not linear, and this engine has been and is being treated for Ecoboost carbon issues thus the RESTORE run prior to the new OE 0w20. Some of the cleaning efforts would naturally cast a lever to higher iron wear among others. Note the FTIR work that DysonAnalysis does exclusively shows the best combustion dynamic ever, including RESTORE 10w30 which is really a 0w35 SAE grade if one is specific, by design.
CUMMINS Valvoline Premium Blue RESTORE is more synthetic than anything on the market and since I lead development of it at Cummins R&D group with Valvoline I can't speak to its chemistry but its effective and durable for sure!
I have run many different 0w20 versions of synthetics with good results when fuels dilute and carbon deposits in valves and pistons tops and rings is controlled. This engine does great with ~ 9 cSt @ 100C lubricants with a strong molecular stability in other words Ford knows that fuels dilute of the design will place you there with lower quality lubes, therefore using a more stable lubricant is do-able with bottle grades lower than 5w30.
Engines care about dynamic viscosity. Hello to all my friends from years ago at BITOG that I haven't connected to!
Terry
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