Does anyone know if there has been comparison testing with these two products. I have the oil guard system on my 6.0 powerstroke deisel and run Amsoil 15W40 full synthetic. The owner of oil guard installed it for me at the Oceanside office. He installed the filter pretty far from the engine under the bed on the frame rail and ran at least 10 to 15 feet of lines. I saw another photo of the Amsoil spin on type bypass in the engine area with just a little length of plumbing. It looked alot cleaner, but which filter is actually better. The oil guard looks like a ball of yarn that is inserted into the canister while the Amsoil is just a spin on. They both claim to be the best and filter down to one micron. Can anyone advise which one is better? Thank you...
Amsoil Bypass vs. Oil Guard Bypass
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I don't know which is better...and more than likely to close to call. However, I like the Amsoil because it is a spin-on, uses synthetic material, has a 50K useful lifespan, and the shorter the feed and drain lines the better.
I have no reason to test either. One rule with Amsoil is to never go too long between filter changes. it's a matter of using submicronic filtration and getting enough new oil added at filter change. Going 50,000 miles between filter changes might work if you drain the oil enough times. Down to one micron means if you check a dirty element and find something in the element one micron in size it filters down to one micron. In old literature Motor Guard claimed to filter down to 1/100 of one micron. A roll of high quality bathroom tissue is normally rated at 1/10 of 1 micron. the original Amsoil filters were very effective. I haven't studied the newer ones. In the Dallas TX area you needed to follow Amsoil's severe use recommendations, otherwise you would have viscosity increase problems. With Mobil 1 it is oxidation problems. Filters are easy to judge. Density determines how well the filter can clean oil. Size and flow rates are other factors. From what little I know I would bet on the Amsoil.
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I think that Oil Guard published a lab test done on their filter. I don't think Amsoil supplies their lab performance figures. I don't think that either one outperforms a toilet paper filter, it just that the tp filter has to be changed more often. If the filter is filtering down to finer particles it will need to be changed more often. And at least the tp is cheap, it not a little bit more of a mess.
Probably you would have to run a particle count and hope the count is accurate .I don't think many are done to prove how effective the filtering is on various filters.Usually there is just the manufactures hype.
The AMSOIL EaBP filters are 98.7% at 2 microns and are said to remove 39% of soot particles below 1 micron.
Either filter will do a good job. I think you could make your choice based on which one you though looked better.
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TP is very hard to beat. It just doesn't last long compared to the others. It's a trade off.
Amsoil gives you spin-on convenience and decent longevity. OG is not too bad either.
Amsoil you can get in for about $50
Amsoil gives you spin-on convenience and decent longevity. OG is not too bad either.
Amsoil you can get in for about $50
I'd sure like to see a particle count from a Amsoil bypass setup with about 5K miles on it to compare with what I got with my Frantz and Delo 400 at that mileage...
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I think that yours may be better. 5k is probably pushing it for TP. The saturation isn't linear ..so you're going to have some particles accummulating. The Amsoil will be the same above a given micron rating 10k later ..probably 20k later. The 2um and under particles will keep climbing as the mileage increases. Meanwhile you've swapped out 4-6 tp rolls. So it's a trade off of finer filtering for longevity of service.
Oil guard filters can be mounted anywhere because they return oil to engine under low pressure. Amsoil requires the bypass filter to be mounted above so gravity will return oil to engine. Oilguard is better suited for an automobile because it provides more mounting options and the filter takes up less room.
I don't believe this is correct with Amsoil, pressure feed means pressure return. I have mounted many bypass filters and they alway's work fine. Keep the lines as short as possible. What you might be thinking is Amsoil wants the filter upright as possible, but any way will work.
You are correct, that is misinformation. None of the Amsoil bypass filters rely on garvity flow as you can plainly see in this one photo of a 2005 Chevy PU
By-Pass Filter Installations
I apologize for misinformation.
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Don't get off on the wrong foot here, spider. First, blame it on someone else for giving you the misinformation. Then, after all else fails ..then you can possibly say that maybe you were incorrect. Claim confusion with another device.
I do recall talking with an amsoil representative who mentioned the "gravity factor." I apolgize for sharing his misinformation...smiles...Don't shoot the messenger... I think I could get the hang of this blaming stuff...
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Around here, after a while anyway, you learn to "qualify" everything you say. "It's been suggested.." "I seem to recall someone saying that .." "I'm uncertain ..but .."
Always have a preplanned exit strategy in place BEFORE you post.
This technique has served me well
Sorry to pick on you but I see a chance to correct some other misinformation I see mentioned a lot in posts.
By representative, do you mean a person from the company or just a dealer/vendor?
A small but imporatant point, a dealer is not a representative of Amsoil no more that a Ford salesman is a representative of Ford.
I have the Amsoil BK-13 mount using the Oilguard filter and filler caps. My mount is located under the driver's seat frame rail because the only other spot to mount it in the engine bay is taken up with a coolant filter.
I looked into getting the Oilguard system when I bought my PSD; I decided against only because the price wasn't worth NOT using the BK-13 mount, which I already had (BTW, I used to be an Amsoil dealer, I'm not now).
Personally, I don't think mounting the bypass 10-15 feet away is a problem and I don't think you can go wrong with any good quality bypass filtering system. In other words, don't try to separate fly poop from black pepper.
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I looked into getting the Oilguard system when I bought my PSD; I decided against only because the price wasn't worth NOT using the BK-13 mount, which I already had (BTW, I used to be an Amsoil dealer, I'm not now).
Personally, I don't think mounting the bypass 10-15 feet away is a problem and I don't think you can go wrong with any good quality bypass filtering system. In other words, don't try to separate fly poop from black pepper.
Al
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