I have a 2003 Honda Odyssey with Amsoil ATF. It should be as close to 100% as you can get with a flush through the cooler line. It was nice and pink for about 2,000 miles...now it is a grey color...also red....but has a grey tint to it. About 7,000 miles on the Amsoil. The van has 76,000 and had the ATF changed at regular 30k intervals with Z1 until I switched to Amsoil. The Honda ATF always looked about the same as the Amsoil does now. Shift quality seems to be okay. I am not sure if the fluid is bad, because of the color or the trainy has a problem. It seems to shift okay, but, I did just buy some more Amsoil ATF. Probably will switch it out as soon as I get a warmer day to do it.
Amsoil ATF dark in Honda Odyssey??
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If the color changed that quickly then it has to be clean out/off. I wouldn't sweat the fluid too much - but a 2003 Ody AT is a dicey proposition, regardless.
Yeah, I know...I have read about the trainy's in this year...fun, fun. But, I own it now and I have to try and keep it running as long as possible. I also changed the cartridge filter at the change to Amsoil 7,000 miles ago. This is another reason I am concerned with the fluid darkening.
Grey tint....strange. I ran Amsoil with a magnifine filter for 80k in a Dodge minivan and the fluid still had a pretty good red tint to it. My Dad was the driver and it was not babied.
For the price of a used oil analysis on the fluid you would know if you have a problem that is starting to rear it's ugly head. It would also be 1/3-1/2 the cost of flushing the trans. You would also know the condition of the fluid regardless of the color.
For the price of a used oil analysis on the fluid you would know if you have a problem that is starting to rear it's ugly head. It would also be 1/3-1/2 the cost of flushing the trans. You would also know the condition of the fluid regardless of the color.
I just got a kit ordered from Blackstone Labs. When it gets here, I will do the ATF change. Probably just a drain and fill.
Originally Posted By: oilboy123
Grey tint....strange. I ran Amsoil with a magnifine filter for 80k in a Dodge minivan and the fluid still had a pretty good red tint to it. My Dad was the driver and it was not babied.
For the price of a used oil analysis on the fluid you would know if you have a problem that is starting to rear it's ugly head. It would also be 1/3-1/2 the cost of flushing the trans. You would also know the condition of the fluid regardless of the color.
DITTO....do a used oil analysis of the fluid and post so we can see?
Grey tint....strange. I ran Amsoil with a magnifine filter for 80k in a Dodge minivan and the fluid still had a pretty good red tint to it. My Dad was the driver and it was not babied.
For the price of a used oil analysis on the fluid you would know if you have a problem that is starting to rear it's ugly head. It would also be 1/3-1/2 the cost of flushing the trans. You would also know the condition of the fluid regardless of the color.
DITTO....do a used oil analysis of the fluid and post so we can see?
Amsoil ATF usually doesn't turn dark in Hondas, at least not that quickly. The 02-04 Odyssey transmissions weren't that bad compared to the 99-01.
I would contact Amsoil Tech Services and ask for their opinion.
I would contact Amsoil Tech Services and ask for their opinion.
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A grayish tint usually indicates aluminum is being dissolved or suspended, most likely a cleaning process going on.
Since the transmission is working fine, I suspect some cleaning is going on too. If it were my car, I would Auto-Rx it now, and then flush it with the new AMSOIL ATF.
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
A grayish tint usually indicates aluminum is being dissolved or suspended, most likely a cleaning process going on.
If the gray tent is aluminum deposits then there is transmission housing issues at play here. Something wearing on the housing someplace. A used oil analysis would be worth the money in your case to see if this is your problem. I would't wait long since Honda's have been known to have transmission issues.
A grayish tint usually indicates aluminum is being dissolved or suspended, most likely a cleaning process going on.
If the gray tent is aluminum deposits then there is transmission housing issues at play here. Something wearing on the housing someplace. A used oil analysis would be worth the money in your case to see if this is your problem. I would't wait long since Honda's have been known to have transmission issues.
After the inititial 4x drain & fill process of converting both of my Honda vehicles (2006 Pilot & 2007 Civic)to Amsoil ATF, I now perform a drain & fill once per year. This January, I performed the annual drain & fill on our 2006 Pilot (20K+ miles on the Amsoil ATF) and the fluid was still bright red and clean. There was less metallic sludge on the magnetic drain plug too.
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If the gray tent is aluminum deposits then there is transmission housing issues at play here. Something wearing on the housing someplace. A used oil analysis would be worth the money in your case to see if this is your problem. I would't wait long since Honda's have been known to have transmission issues.
True, but sometimes there are nooks and crannies that didn't get get cleaned by the dino fluid, whereas the Amsoil is "solving" it as the fluid flows.
My recommendation is to do a pan drain, refilter (if it has one) and refill every 10k until this condition passes.
If the gray tent is aluminum deposits then there is transmission housing issues at play here. Something wearing on the housing someplace. A used oil analysis would be worth the money in your case to see if this is your problem. I would't wait long since Honda's have been known to have transmission issues.
True, but sometimes there are nooks and crannies that didn't get get cleaned by the dino fluid, whereas the Amsoil is "solving" it as the fluid flows.
My recommendation is to do a pan drain, refilter (if it has one) and refill every 10k until this condition passes.
Originally Posted By: BuickGN
Aluminum comes from the convertor too.
And torque convertors tend to be a weak spot on the Honda 5-speed autos as well.
Aluminum comes from the convertor too.
And torque convertors tend to be a weak spot on the Honda 5-speed autos as well.
Originally Posted By: INDYMAC
Since the transmission is working fine, I suspect some cleaning is going on too. If it were my car, I would Auto-Rx it now, and then flush it with the new AMSOIL ATF.
I did put AutoRX in it and flushed it with Amsoil afterward. Forgot about that until your post.
Since the transmission is working fine, I suspect some cleaning is going on too. If it were my car, I would Auto-Rx it now, and then flush it with the new AMSOIL ATF.
I did put AutoRX in it and flushed it with Amsoil afterward. Forgot about that until your post.
Cooper,
I too have an '03' Odyssey with 71k+ miles on it. I have done a drain and fill on it and had the Honda stealership do a pan drop and clean & fill with Honda AT-Z all within the last 3k miles. How were you able to change the cartridge filter? From what I have researched you can't change it unless you pull the trans to do an overhaul. They dont even have a filter part # listed at any of the Napa, Carquest, or Advanced parts stores.
Also, just curious what oil & filters are you using and are you doing them at the 7500 OCI reminder light? My 1st OCI I filled with Pennzoil Platinum with oem filter, but am considering switching to Maxlife or even MotorCraft at half the price.
I too have an '03' Odyssey with 71k+ miles on it. I have done a drain and fill on it and had the Honda stealership do a pan drop and clean & fill with Honda AT-Z all within the last 3k miles. How were you able to change the cartridge filter? From what I have researched you can't change it unless you pull the trans to do an overhaul. They dont even have a filter part # listed at any of the Napa, Carquest, or Advanced parts stores.
Also, just curious what oil & filters are you using and are you doing them at the 7500 OCI reminder light? My 1st OCI I filled with Pennzoil Platinum with oem filter, but am considering switching to Maxlife or even MotorCraft at half the price.
Pan drop on a Honda AT?
You know what, there isn't a pan to drop is there? I was reading the invoice which said "drop pan and clean magnet of debris & replace with 4 quarts of Honda AT-Z" Silly me! I still would like to know how Cooper replaced the filter cartridge.
Originally Posted By: 05Blazer
You know what, there isn't a pan to drop is there? I was reading the invoice which said "drop pan and clean magnet of debris & replace with 4 quarts of Honda AT-Z" Silly me! I still would like to know how Cooper replaced the filter cartridge.
They probably meant the magnetic drain plug.
You know what, there isn't a pan to drop is there? I was reading the invoice which said "drop pan and clean magnet of debris & replace with 4 quarts of Honda AT-Z" Silly me! I still would like to know how Cooper replaced the filter cartridge.
They probably meant the magnetic drain plug.
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Originally Posted By: 05Blazer
..I still would like to know how Cooper replaced the filter cartridge.
For your 2003, it's #8 here. A knuckle buster, but do-able.
Joel
..I still would like to know how Cooper replaced the filter cartridge.
For your 2003, it's #8 here. A knuckle buster, but do-able.
Joel
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