Just noticed I did a typo, it is ATM 10w-30 not ASL. Sorry about that. I even proofread it and missed it.
AMSOIL ASL10w-30, 2003 Camry, 20,499 on oil
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7.4 ppm/1000 miles is in line with a lot of the "normal" UOA's on the board here.
I'd be dumping due to the TBN but the Fe levels alone don't seem that significant, especially with Si at 69ppm.
Thanks for posting.
I'd be dumping due to the TBN but the Fe levels alone don't seem that significant, especially with Si at 69ppm.
Thanks for posting.
Yeah, definitely going a bit too far on the oil changes.
I'd love to see a valve-train picture show!
20,000 was a good direction, but personally...just ask that he back off to 15,000-17,500 range.
...or keep going for it and let's see how long the car does last!
I'd love to see a valve-train picture show!
20,000 was a good direction, but personally...just ask that he back off to 15,000-17,500 range.
...or keep going for it and let's see how long the car does last!
Originally Posted By: ltslimjim
Yeah, definitely going a bit too far on the oil changes.
I'd love to see a valve-train picture show!
20,000 was a good direction, but personally...just ask that he back off to 15,000-17,500 range.
...or keep going for it and let's see how long the car does last!
x2. I'm definitely interested. I say let him keep doing what he's doing and i'm willing to bet that the engine lasts a LOOOONG time based on these results. It honestly doesn't look like A TON of excess engine wear is happening all over the block from the long OCI. She'll be just fine.
Yeah, definitely going a bit too far on the oil changes.
I'd love to see a valve-train picture show!
20,000 was a good direction, but personally...just ask that he back off to 15,000-17,500 range.
...or keep going for it and let's see how long the car does last!
x2. I'm definitely interested. I say let him keep doing what he's doing and i'm willing to bet that the engine lasts a LOOOONG time based on these results. It honestly doesn't look like A TON of excess engine wear is happening all over the block from the long OCI. She'll be just fine.
The interesting thing is comparing this UOA to another one on this board, the limo that got run 25k miles. The limo appears to be depositing an order of magnitude less Fe into the oil. Interesting.
Originally Posted By: tomcat27
according to amsoil, I dont believe you should run the EA09 that many miles. they had problems with them clogging on toyotas. I dont remember all the details....
That's correct.
Amsoil cut open some filters that had been on Toyotas and found sludge at less than the oil spec milage.
Amsoil decided the filter was too small for this application and decided on a reduced milage spec for Toyota cars and this filter combo.
according to amsoil, I dont believe you should run the EA09 that many miles. they had problems with them clogging on toyotas. I dont remember all the details....
That's correct.
Amsoil cut open some filters that had been on Toyotas and found sludge at less than the oil spec milage.
Amsoil decided the filter was too small for this application and decided on a reduced milage spec for Toyota cars and this filter combo.
What about that Amsoil signature series or whatever they call it that's supposed to last 25k miles?
Would he pay to install a bypass filter?
With better filtration like a Frantz TP filter he probably could run 30k or more.
Would he pay to install a bypass filter?
With better filtration like a Frantz TP filter he probably could run 30k or more.
^TBN retention probably among the best possible. As always, any app can beat up any oil if not under the right circumstances.
Adding a bypass is one of those 'right circumstances' that isn't usually seen. Doing that...yeah, this car is g2g. Of course, change the PCV valve and other maintenance on time.
Adding a bypass is one of those 'right circumstances' that isn't usually seen. Doing that...yeah, this car is g2g. Of course, change the PCV valve and other maintenance on time.
Id say try 17,500 on oil and send a sample in.
10,000 mi, 20,000 mi, 30,000 mi, 40,000 mi I dont care.
JUST KEEP SENDING SAMPLES!
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Start bugging him at 5k miles to do an oil change. Then by 10k miles you'll probably be doing the oil change. Which in this case will be a good thing.
Hows the tranny fluid look? Pull the dipstick to check. I'd do 3-4 drain and fills with some Lubegard red. Of course I wouldn't dive too deep into this car or that may backfire on you. Good luck!
Hows the tranny fluid look? Pull the dipstick to check. I'd do 3-4 drain and fills with some Lubegard red. Of course I wouldn't dive too deep into this car or that may backfire on you. Good luck!
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