Amazon workers plan strike between Black Friday and Cyber Monday in major cities around the world

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Workers working in Amazon warehouses are mostly not Amazon employees; they're temps hired through a 3rd party agency. They keep chaos abounding, moving people around in shifts so they have different supervisors and co-workers to keep them dazed and "unorganized." If I were in their shoes and trying to organize, I'd demand to work for Amazon directly, to have steady hours, and, to have every worker in the union. Then once you get that toehold you get to work on pay & benefits.
 
Workers working in Amazon warehouses are mostly not Amazon employees; they're temps hired through a 3rd party agency. They keep chaos abounding, moving people around in shifts so they have different supervisors and co-workers to keep them dazed and "unorganized." If I were in their shoes and trying to organize, I'd demand to work for Amazon directly, to have steady hours, and, to have every worker in the union. Then once you get that toehold you get to work on pay & benefits.
That might be local to you.

At least at the location Near me the vast majority work for amazon.
there are Temp holiday workers who work from October through the first and if any are at all decent they keep them on.
So far I this batch there have been 0 keepers.
 
I'm not for or against Unions. But some of the stuff these people ask for are ridiculous. It just makes the cost of goods go up for the rest of us. I do agree wages have not kept up with inflation over the last 30-40 years. But there has to be a different way without making the end user pay even more out of their pockets.
Ridiculous? Depends on which side of the deal you are on. That's Capitalism.
 
I agree, But for those who live check to check, We don't really want to pay more for goods. We are already scraping.
From my experience, the more people around you that succeed in life, the better the outcome for yourself as well. In most cases, their better outcomes benefits others and even whole communities.

You need to focus on what you need to do in order to better your own outcomes, not how to hold back others IMO.
 
I agree, But for those who live check to check, We don't really want to pay more for goods. We are already scraping.
I couldn't agree more. My father was the son of poor immigrants from Ukraine who went to Yale U. He told me everyone has to eat.
It is important to me to share where I can, just like others have done for me.

I am a huge proponent of free and low cost education for everyone.
 
Similar to a FedEx Ground franchise type of business.
I asked our Fedex Ground drivers about their pay and they are also contractors. So Fedex Ground hires a contractor that owns delivery vehicles and that contractor hires people as 1099 contractors to drive the vehicles. Two of these guys had worked with this same contractor for a few years so they were actually senior workers and were paid around $100/day. Didn't matter if they got their deliveries and pick-ups done in 6 hours or 12 hours. They were paid by the day. Period.
 
From my experience, the more people around you that succeed in life, the better the outcome for yourself as well. In most cases, their better outcomes benefits others and even whole communities.

You need to focus on what you need to do in order to better your own outcomes, not how to hold back others IMO.
 
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I agree, But for those who live check to check, We don't really want to pay more for goods. We are already scraping.
I don't either, but not how it works.

Market determines the price. The price of something is $100 at retail. If they can make it for $70 or $10 doesn't matter. The only difference is there profit. Price stays $100.

If they can make it for $10 and its not patented, eventually someone will come in and compete, and the price will fall. But that might take a while.

If the price gets too high, no one will buy it, so demand will fall, and labor will be let go, and the surplus of labor will drive labor rates back down.

Labor should make as much money as they can, when they can, because they might not have that same opportunity in the future. Just like any business. A worker is a business of 1.
 
I don't either, but not how it works.

Market determines the price. The price of something is $100 at retail. If they can make it for $70 or $10 doesn't matter. The only difference is there profit. Price stays $100.

If they can make it for $10 and its not patented, eventually someone will come in and compete, and the price will fall. But that might take a while.

If the price gets too high, no one will buy it, so demand will fall, and labor will be let go, and the surplus of labor will drive labor rates back down.

Labor should make as much money as they can, when they can, because they might not have that same opportunity in the future. Just like any business. A worker is a business of 1.
Good way to put it. Thank you. Sometimes I need a bit of a nudge to put the thinking cap on.
 
I couldn't agree more. My father was the son of poor immigrants from Ukraine who went to Yale U. He told me everyone has to eat.
It is important to me to share where I can, just like others have done for me.

I am a huge proponent of free and low cost education for everyone.
Free or low cost only for those who have proven themselves worthy of educating, today unfortunately most are not. It is a hard reality but nevertheless a real one and it is not getting any better.
 
Free or low cost only for those who have proven themselves worthy of educating, today unfortunately most are not. It is a hard reality but nevertheless a real one and it is not getting any better.
U.S. already offers free college and/ or student loan repayment.

Serve your Nation for a few years, college tuition, and housing is paid for- at any accredited institution, from a welding school to medical school. Not sure why there is debate about paying for education.

Want to have your student loan debt satisfied, Uncle Sam offers that also. One weekend a month and get to serve your nation, maybe learn some new skills, and support your community.
 
Free or low cost only for those who have proven themselves worthy of educating, today unfortunately most are not. It is a hard reality but nevertheless a real one and it is not getting any better.
Opportunity is wasted if not taken. I graduated at the age of 40 from a top public school; most of the cost was paid for by the companies I worked for. I'm pretty sure they didn't do this because they thought I was cute; they made an investment in me. I am big on investing, as an aside...

Some students are lucky; their parents choose to help them financially. That was not my case. I probably would have squandered the opportunity at that time anyways. So I was not worthy of educating. Who knows?

Sure some people squander opportunity; I believe it is never too late. Education teaches us we only knew a little; life is for learning.
 
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You cannot educate a box of rocks no matter how long or how hard you try and that is my point.

Why it would be nice if they pushed the trades instead. I’ve seen quite a few folks I know for a fact that their kids are not for college.

And that is not always a bad thing.
 
I don't either, but not how it works.

Market determines the price. The price of something is $100 at retail. If they can make it for $70 or $10 doesn't matter. The only difference is there profit. Price stays $100.

If they can make it for $10 and its not patented, eventually someone will come in and compete, and the price will fall. But that might take a while.

If the price gets too high, no one will buy it, so demand will fall, and labor will be let go, and the surplus of labor will drive labor rates back down.

Labor should make as much money as they can, when they can, because they might not have that same opportunity in the future. Just like any business. A worker is a business of 1.

Only if the market doesn’t decide to work together to price fix.

This way everyone wins, except the consumer.
 
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