Amazon: we got burned by products with great reviews, twice

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My wife recently purchased two items a bit cheaper with lots (100s-1000s) of great reviews. We get the product and have issues go back to our order and find they have 10-20 reviews that one star and issues what we experienced instead of hundred of great reviews. What happened to amazing reviews?

It gets returned.

What is happening?
 
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I read the one and two star reviews to decide on a purchase. I think when someone is willing to take the time to write a poor review, then their opinion matters to me. I've read that it's possible to pad a listing with fake 5 star reviews.
 
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I agree with you on the Amazon reviews. I noticed the reviews became less accurate over the years starting around 2017. I still use amazon, but I now cross-reference the review on YouTube. They don’t always agree with each other but at least it’s a way to do a little bit of Val/Ver. 🤔
 
A few years back I wanted to write a positive review about a Tineco A10 vacuum cleaner, after a few weeks use. The seller had closed comments. I noticed he was aggressive controlling comments in general. Kind of sad.

On the other hand Walmart, for all they are trying to be another Amazon, has a very painful returns process, and almost no user review system. So it leaves Amazon still relevant.
 
Fake review is the culprit for online shopping platform. Have to be careful, checking multiple recent reviews that has photos and videos.
And get prime membership so you don't take the loss.
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Online reviews, of every ilk, should be taken with a jaundiced eye.

First consideration is whether the review base actually applies to the product in question. Amazon has long allowed recycled item listings, and doesn't reset and clear out the non-applicable reviews, even if they are for a completely different product, which poisons the numerical data. This is most evident when a third-party seller pivots from selling something like electronics, to women's clothing. Looking at the items in the seller's storefront is also a good way to filter out those who are simply dabblers, who might sell a random variety of stuff, versus those who have more a plan, commit to selling specific types of products, and might not be as likely to fly-by-night and bail after selling through their stock.

Second consideration is whether the bulk of the reviews apply to the specific model, or variant of the item in question. Same as the first, to a lesser degree. The sub-heading to each review specifies the model, or variant the buyer is reviewing. But that only works well when item listing is properly-written, with each option carrying accurate descriptions. But still, the overall ratings are compiled from the all reviews, and it is up to the shopper to differentiate between what is applicable, and what is not. A bunch of five-star reviews for that 1000W microwave oven is going to drown out the three-star reviews for the underpowered 700W model, and skew the numbers. It's up to the shopper to comb through each review and pick out those that really are applicable, and not rely solely on the stars.

A few years ago, Amazon reviews were riddled with the "I got this for free, but this is still an impartial review" type of reviews. Yeah, sure. Sellers were gaming the review system by providing free products to anyone who had a pulse, which resulted in a lot of low quality reviews from unqualified people flooding the system with less critical, mostly positive reviews. In a rare bit of clarity, Amazon then decided to ban the biggest practitioners of these practices, and purge those products from its store. But, that also served to throw the baby out with the bathwater, because some of those products actually were legit, and didn't stop the practice. That move only drove it underground, and it still occurs today, even if to a lesser degree. Amazon even officially makes it part of their system, through the Vine program, but at least those are clearly identified.

Amazon's review system has a lot of structural deficiencies it has long failed to address, or correct, so it cannot be blindly trusted. It's a participation sport, and the best place to start is not by trusting the good reviews, but looking at the bad ones and taking the valid ones into consideration. Their customer service is still good, and liberal with taking returns. But relying on that avenue puts one at risk of being banned as a customer as well, even if for legitimate reasons. Shipping non-vetted, returned items in damaged condition as "new" is already another issue the company has.

At the most basic level, one also has to have faith that the people writing the reviews know *** they're talking about. That is often not the case, and I've seen glaring instances where reviews were based on plain factual errors and poor knowledge, especially when it comes to more technical respects, like understanding a safety mark and what it means. There used to be a provision where responses were allowed, but it was removed, so the only options now are to mark a defective review as helpful, or "report" it.
 
I like/love Amazon reviews. However I do not read the five star reviews, at least in the beginning/ 5 stars are mostly fantasy of a consumer elated over the product they just received.

I go straight to 2 and 3 star to see if the concerns those people have are valid OR if they pertain to me and my wants. Then bump my way up to 4 and down to one star.

Common sense says when many people get a product in the mail when first opening it they are thrilled so I expect to see those 5 stars and they are meaningless unless confirmed by 1 to 3 stars and the issues they had. Being I am more particular I look more towards three stars and go from there.
 
Ever notice that virtually every product on Amazon has a 4 1/2 star rating? This in itself is highly suspicious. I started to not pay much attention to the ratings when I left a very bad 1 star review for a product that deserved it and discovered later that my review had been erased. I have also had reviews rejected by Amazon for criticizing the seller. IMO the seller needs to be criticized when the product listing is incorrect, false, or misleading. For a while now all I do is read the actual reviews sorted by "Most recent" and "Critical reviews" and judge from there. I don't pay much attention to the star ratings or "glowing praise" reviews.
 
Amazon is worse than Temu in every way. A guy named rossman bought a bunch of electrical wires, crips, connectors and fuses from amazon with great reviews.
5 amp fuse withstanding 30 amps for extended periods of times.
Amazon products will burn down your house and your car and get you killed.
 
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