Alligator killed 2-year-old boy in Disney World

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When I was in Kuwait on an air base, there were boardwalk across open fields with the signs indicating "Unexploded Ordinance" By BITOGs standards it need only say "Keep off the Grass"

Signs must indicate the nature or consequences of the danger.
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Wading in the water ankle or knee deep (whatever is was) is not swimming. The sign didn't say "STAY OUT OF THE WATER".


When you see a "no swimming" sign at a public fountain, do you NOT get the message ?

Even if it's not got the starters blocks, is 1' deep, and therefore incapable of either freestyle of backstroke, the message is there, and virtually universal.


Go look up the definition of "swim" on any official English dictionary (ie, Marriam-Websters, http://www.merriam-webster.com) and show me where walking in water 6 inches deep is called "swimming".


That's called "wading."

I'm not sure how its different from swimming, as to being in the water.
 
Originally Posted By: Prune_Juice
Apparently, the argument was that the sign did not communicate danger.

WHAT DID THE SIGN SAY?


You're right, the sign did not communicate danger.

You've read this whole thread and still don't know what the sign said? Go to YouTube, there are about 100 videos all about this incident already, lots of them are stories from official news stations.
 
Originally Posted By: Prune_Juice
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Wading in the water ankle or knee deep (whatever is was) is not swimming. The sign didn't say "STAY OUT OF THE WATER".


When you see a "no swimming" sign at a public fountain, do you NOT get the message ?

Even if it's not got the starters blocks, is 1' deep, and therefore incapable of either freestyle of backstroke, the message is there, and virtually universal.


Go look up the definition of "swim" on any official English dictionary (ie, Marriam-Websters, http://www.merriam-webster.com) and show me where walking in water 6 inches deep is called "swimming".


That's called "wading."

I'm not sure how its different from swimming, as to being in the water.


Like I said, go look up the official definition of 'swim' and 'wade'.

I still go by the official definitions of the English language (unlike some people it seems), not made up definitions that I think a word should mean.
 
You know it's bad when the state has to spend tax dollars to post signs advising drivers to turn headlights on when raining and to safely move over for emergency vehicles! I don't know what happened to common sense.
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix


I still go by the official definitions of the English language (unlike some people it seems), not made up definitions that I think a word should mean.


Clever. And your respect for modern-day American English is admirable. BUT. If the people were in the water, does it matter if they swam, waded, floated, hopscotched, ran, sprinted, jogged, yoga, Pilates, Zumba, or otherwise were present in? I'll go to the Merriam Webster dictionary to check out word definitions, but if a foot is in some water, is that flying? Biking? Hiking?

Did the sign say being in the water was OK?

Did the sign say "After dark?"

Was there a reasonable suspicion of a gator?
 
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Originally Posted By: Prune_Juice
I don't know, its almost...
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Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
Regardless, this poor family already probably has a lawyer and needs to be paid a large amount. Disney can afford it.


I'm gonna go with $350mil,or $350M to ~$600,000,000. No criminal charges, Gator Safety Awareness program.

Now we need to worry about Anacondas.
 
Originally Posted By: Prune_Juice
You know it's bad when the state has to spend tax dollars to post signs advising drivers to turn headlights on when raining and to safely move over for emergency vehicles! I don't know what happened to common sense.



I live in Chicago and we mostly "slow down" for emergency vehicles. I hate going to the suburbs and have drivers stopping on the side of the road even if the emergency is coming down the street!
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Like I said, go look up the official definition of 'swim' and 'wade'.

I still go by the official definitions of the English language (unlike some people it seems), not made up definitions that I think a word should mean.


Now you are being obtuse...

OK, so now the toddler had a pocket dictionary, and felt justified in his choices as being on the legal high ground and only going into the water ankle/knee deep.

As to things that are generally and typically universal, in an environment in which there are people from many cultures, and not necessarily your english scholar background...

Pray tell what these signs are meant to convey, universally to people who may or may not understand English...
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Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
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Idiotic parents don't watch their kids, we saw that with the Zoo incident the other week.


Pretty clear you have never been around small children.

It only takes a few seconds.....


Ahh, yes that brings back memories of this short film:


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Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
Originally Posted By: Prune_Juice
You know it's bad when the state has to spend tax dollars to post signs advising drivers to turn headlights on when raining and to safely move over for emergency vehicles! I don't know what happened to common sense.



I live in Chicago and we mostly "slow down" for emergency vehicles. I hate going to the suburbs and have drivers stopping on the side of the road even if the emergency is coming down the street!


Does the sign say "slow down" or "reduce speed?"
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Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
Prune, this family deserves the money. I saw a picture of the poor kid. It's a heart breaking experience.


Oh, they're GOING to get paid, just on the trauma of alligator CHOMP alone.

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Originally Posted By: Prune_Juice
Does the sign say "slow down" or "reduce speed?"
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I suppose the law says to pull over and stop. But in a big urban city it happens so frequently no one really cares.
 
I am tuning into this late. But my feelings are Disney needs to pay. It's their responsibility to provide guests with safety and if there is a issue they need to take precautions. That said and being from Florida. I can tell you those alligators are plenty sneaky and scary. I think you should be able to kill them Everytime you see one. Those prehistoric monsters dont belong in civilization.
 
Originally Posted By: qwerty1234
Originally Posted By: Prune_Juice
Does the sign say "slow down" or "reduce speed?"
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I suppose the law says to pull over and stop. But in a big urban city it happens so frequently no one really cares.


Yeah, but does it explicitly say what an "Emergency vehicle" is?

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Qwerty, you rock man. I'm just joshing with ya. I was asking you a ZeeOSix line of questioning.

I understand.
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Originally Posted By: Prune_Juice
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix


I still go by the official definitions of the English language (unlike some people it seems), not made up definitions that I think a word should mean.


Clever. And your respect for modern-day American English is admirable. BUT. If the people were in the water, does it matter if they swam, waded, floated, hopscotched, ran, sprinted, jogged, yoga, Pilates, Zumba, or otherwise were present in? I'll go to the Merriam Webster dictionary to check out word definitions, but if a foot is in some water, is that flying? Biking? Hiking?

Did the sign say being in the water was OK?

Did the sign say "After dark?"

Was there a reasonable suspicion of a gator?


The sign simply said "No Swimming" ... that's it. You should know that by now if you've kept up with this thread. It did not say "Stay Out Of The Water" and said nothing about alligators in the water - which Disney was well aware of.

Wading is NOT swimming ... per the official definition of the word. Too many people don't even know the real meaning of words anymore, and just make up their own definitions to suit their perception.
 
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